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by maryhelena
Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Those who sought the child's life are dead.
Replies: 4
Views: 82

Re: Those who sought the child's life are dead.

Interesting point mentioned kind of in passing in an article by S. C. Carlson which he recently uploaded to Academia.edu: Matthew 2.19-20: 19 But when Herod died , behold, an angel of the Lord appears in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, and said, 20 “Get up, take the Child and His mother, and go into th...
by maryhelena
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and Marcion
Replies: 29
Views: 808

Re: Paul and Marcion

The way I liken it is as follows. For any of the people at this forum who led normal lives and got married had kids etc. Arguments happen. They usually happen over a series of events which in their rawest form have mutual agreement. Look at Falwell's latest chapter: https://www.foxnews.com/us/jerry...
by maryhelena
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).
Replies: 9
Views: 362

Re: Matthew, Luke, & the Protevangelium of James (for David).

Ben, just want to throw this into the mix.... John the Baptist: “destined to be king over Israel’? https://frdbarchive.org/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=298696&p=6700832&hilit The son of Zacharias and Elizabeth, John, “destined to be king over Israel’? And Mary’s son also! - and only around six months betwee...
by maryhelena
Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and Marcion
Replies: 29
Views: 808

Re: Paul and Marcion

Page 55 . The Arch-Heretic Marcion: Sebastian Moll. 3. We have seen that the idea of a just God attributed to Marcion is always combined with a tripartite system, in the form of either ‘good God-just God-evil matter’ or ‘good God-just God-evil God’. As Marcion’s original doctrine, however, was with...
by maryhelena
Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and Marcion
Replies: 29
Views: 808

Re: Paul and Marcion

If Marcion was connecting his 'evil' god to the god of the OT - then in fact it was an honor not a dishonor. After all, if intellectual or philosophical progress is to be made then an 'evil' god is a prerequisite. Someone has to do the destroying of the old ideas. Destruction of old ideas is the pr...
by maryhelena
Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and Marcion
Replies: 29
Views: 808

Re: Paul and Marcion

If anyone is having difficulty with the FRDB archive links - it's easy just to sign up at talkfreethought - present holders of the FRDB archive.

https://talkfreethought.org/
by maryhelena
Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and Marcion
Replies: 29
Views: 808

Paul and Marcion

I'm just going to throw an idea out here..... Some years ago, (goodness 10 years ago, on FRDB, I put up a thread on a new Marcion book by Sebastian Moll. The Arch-Heretic Marcion by Sebastian Moll https://frdbarchive.org/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=295510&p=6610970&hilit Stephan Huller put up a counter thr...
by maryhelena
Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bilby: a mix of fine exegesis and naive historicism
Replies: 58
Views: 1984

Re: Bilby: a mix of fine exegesis and naive historicism

Great cover analogy, to show how the retelling transforms the original. Now, if you or another musically gifted singer covered it today and knew well both the original and the Ataris version, do you think traces of both performances might show up in the 3rd cover? Do you think you'd be able to tell...
by maryhelena
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bilby: a mix of fine exegesis and naive historicism
Replies: 58
Views: 1984

Re: Bilby: a mix of fine exegesis and naive historicism

Ben, that's a mountain of work there.. Did you arrive at any conclusions from all this work. Conclusions regarding the material now in the NT. What picture have you drawn? Any chance you could do a one paragraph summary of your work? :) One of my conclusions, ever tentative, is that neither Luke di...
by maryhelena
Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bilby: a mix of fine exegesis and naive historicism
Replies: 58
Views: 1984

Re: Bilby: a mix of fine exegesis and naive historicism

Movie production today is obviously far more involved and complicated an undertaking than the production of ancient texts. Is it? Movies are made in a matter of months. From conventional Paul to the First Edition (circa 160 according to David Trobisch), the New Testament gestated for a hundred year...