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by maryhelena
Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case for John of Gischala eclipsed as "John the Baptist" in Mark
Replies: 28
Views: 17007

Re: The case for John of Gischala eclipsed as "John the Baptist" in Mark

StephenGoranson wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:19 am
And, by the way, why the fictional name, mh? As for hiding an agenda, to use an old phrase, who's zooming who?
You want my birth certificate? :eek:

You'll just have to take my word for it......Mary Helena is my birth name.....
by maryhelena
Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case for John of Gischala eclipsed as "John the Baptist" in Mark
Replies: 28
Views: 17007

Re: The case for John of Gischala eclipsed as "John the Baptist" in Mark

StephenGoranson wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:18 am
mary helena, and were Pliny the Elder and Dio also writing fiction about Essenes?
Philo set the agenda.......
by maryhelena
Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case for John of Gischala eclipsed as "John the Baptist" in Mark
Replies: 28
Views: 17007

Re: The case for John of Gischala eclipsed as "John the Baptist" in Mark

maryhelena, what matters here is not the existence or not of the Essenes, but the concrete probability that John of Gischala was confused in a source used by Josephus as 'John the Essene', hence, even beyond the possible ethymology of 'Essaios' as 'Baptizer' (per Graetz's and Raschke's suggestion),...
by maryhelena
Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The case for John of Gischala eclipsed as "John the Baptist" in Mark
Replies: 28
Views: 17007

Re: The case for John of Gischala eclipsed as "John the Baptist" in Mark

Right.... Time to throw a cat among the pigeons..... The Essenes did not exist historically. They are a fiction in the minds of Philo and Josephus. Their purpose in writing fiction...... or perhaps to be generous.... allegory.... can indeed be questioned. However, once doubt has been cast re histori...
by maryhelena
Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark: Why the Baptist had to die for some other reasons
Replies: 53
Views: 35145

Re: Mark: Why the Baptist had to die for some other reasons

This forum is called "Biblical Criticism & History Forum," not "Criticism except for X, Y, or Z's papers." I agree with some papers, including recently as you can see, and disagree with others. Do you wish to disallow such? My point is that when one already has an axe to grind, in the debate over H...
by maryhelena
Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark: Why the Baptist had to die for some other reasons
Replies: 53
Views: 35145

Re: Mark: Why the Baptist had to die for some other reasons

According to the G. Doudna paper maryhelena linked to again, Josephus called Hyrcanus II John the Baptist instead of Hyrcanus II and also placed the story in the time of a wrong Herod. Each one of these seems to me unlikely. Taken together, even more unlikely. Greg Doudna's paper on the Josephan fi...
by maryhelena
Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark: Why the Baptist had to die for some other reasons
Replies: 53
Views: 35145

Re: Mark: Why the Baptist had to die for some other reasons

Also of interest from the John the Baptist (Online 2021) conference. http://enochseminar.org/online-2021 Shayna Sheinfeld, “Revisiting the Historical John the Baptist as Prophet in First-Century Judaism”  It is no surprise, given the eventual success of the religion we have come to know as Christian...
by maryhelena
Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence Christianity started as mythicist
Replies: 93
Views: 69827

Re: Evidence Christianity started as mythicist

doing some research and presenting a shocking conclusion that so-and-so is not historical? (so you buy his book) what does "not historical" even mean? it means nothing the idea is to place people in their historical context whether they are literary creations or not or some blend of the two that wa...
by maryhelena
Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence Christianity started as mythicist
Replies: 93
Views: 69827

Re: Evidence Christianity started as mythicist

It wasn’t inevitable, given Vespasian and Titus, that someone would compose gMark. The failure of the Hasmoneans doesn’t explain why Jews under the Romans got so good at writing scripture, anymore than Antiochus Epiphanes explains why the Book of Daniel was written or why it had such an impact. The...
by maryhelena
Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence Christianity started as mythicist
Replies: 93
Views: 69827

Re: Evidence Christianity started as mythicist

It wasn’t inevitable, given Vespasian and Titus, that someone would compose gMark. The failure of the Hasmoneans doesn’t explain why Jews under the Romans got so good at writing scripture, anymore than Antiochus Epiphanes explains why the Book of Daniel was written or why it had such an impact. The...