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Ebionism is a post-Marcion phenomenon... Yes, that's why I wrote "Ebion-like". I believe the Ebionites were the continuation of the beliefs of the original Christians, even if modified by time. This is because the letters that appear to either be written before the Gospels or were unaffec...

The point is the same of Hebrews 4:15: Jesus is fully human, only remember that the his humanity was without sin. You don't need to explain that his humanity was without sin, unless you are addressing people who did n't accept a human Jesus, i.e. Marcionites . A 'Jesus without sin" is consiste...

Peter Kirby wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:39 pmI kinda don't get it. Hanging around at creation but not the Son?

An angel perhaps, given a promotion? I think Ehrman believes something along those lines, though I haven't looked into that.

Christ is a son via a woman, while Christians are sons via adoption: Also I am son of a woman If that were true, surely you would have given the name of the woman. Who uses "son of a woman" to describe someone? and baptized at the birth. If that were true, surely you would have supplied t...

Afterall, just as 'called Christ' breaks the context (the brother of Jesus ben Damneus being the victim of Ananus), a similar breaking of the context is in action in Galatians 4:4: the argument is the Son being sent by god in the predicted time, and the 'birth from woman' is not a detail of interes...

The possible interpretations may be numerous and contradictory. Jesus may be the son of El Elyon, he may be the son of YHWH. Literally or spiritually. I think there is also the question of timing. If Christianity started from a Jewish context, then "son of God" probably was a term that di...

Yahweh was one of the sons of El Elyon; and Jesus in the Gospels was described as a Son of El Elyon, God Most High. In other words, he was described as a heavenly being. Isn't "son of God" also used in a spiritual sense in the NT? For example, in the Gospel of John: Jhn 1:45 Philip findet...

4) Marcion was, by his own standards, honest. He was trying to restore the gospel to what he thought was its original form. He worked with existing material, omitting a great deal of material from Luke, and some form Paul, and perhaps occasionally using readings from Mark or Matthew, as well as edi...

As Peter noted, the thread isn't about trying to prove one theory or another, but rather what is people's best guess about how Marcion fits into early Christianity? I'm interested in reading the range of views people have developed based on their intuition, and not challenging anyone to 'prove' that...

There have been lots of threads about Marcion and early Christianity recently. I was wondering what theories people have around the implications of Marcion for early Christianity. Not necessarily HJ vs MJ, though that could be a part of it, but on the development of early Christianity itself. For my...