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by arnoldo
Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Pilate? Because the killer had to be originally Herod
Replies: 9
Views: 547

Re: Why Pilate? Because the killer had to be originally Herod

. . . Other evidences of Herod's utility to date Jesus (without Pilate): there came down from above, for causes that we shall afterwards declare, in the time of Herod a certain man called Christ This Serpent, he says, is he who appeared in the last days, in form of a man , in the times of Herod , b...
by arnoldo
Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:29 am
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Who's who on BC&H Forum?
Replies: 9
Views: 3353

Re: Who's who on BC&H Forum?

nili wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:16 pm
My experience is that most discussions are improved by replacing ...
  • Jesus is ...
with ...
  • Jesus is depicted as ...
Jesus Through the Centuries: His Place in the History of Culture By Jaroslav Pelikan explores this theme.
by arnoldo
Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Pilate? Because the killer had to be originally Herod
Replies: 9
Views: 547

Re: Why Pilate? Because the killer had to be originally Herod

I found this footnote on Josephus' account of Pilate interesting. (7) These Jews, as they are here called, whose blood Pilate shed on this occasion, may very well be those very Galilean Jews whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices, Luke 13:1, 2. These tumults being usually excited at so...
by arnoldo
Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Herod Antipas and the shaken reed.
Replies: 29
Views: 4774

Re: Herod Antipas and the shaken reed.

Jesus said, "Why have you (plur.) come out into the countryside? To see a reed shaken by the wind? And to see a person dressed in fine apparel [like your] governors and your members of court, who wear fine apparel and cannot recognize truth?" http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/thomas/gospelthoma...
by arnoldo
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Herod Antipas and the shaken reed.
Replies: 29
Views: 4774

Re: Herod Antipas and the shaken reed.

Jesus said, "Why have you (plur.) come out into the countryside? To see a reed shaken by the wind? And to see a person dressed in fine apparel [like your] governors and your members of court, who wear fine apparel and cannot recognize truth?" http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/thomas/gospelthomas...
by arnoldo
Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?
Replies: 40
Views: 5772

Re: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?

To me it has long appeared more natural to interpret both the "man dressed in soft clothing" and the "reed shaking in the wind" as Herod Antipas. John is a rugged prophet in the saying, not a wimpy palace dweller like the Herods. And Herod Antipas' earliest coinage symbol appears to have been a ree...
by arnoldo
Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?
Replies: 40
Views: 5772

Re: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?

I still don't think John the Baptist is a historical figure but apparently I have more to read. What else is new Read the Apocalypse Of Elijah. It has the following interesting quote; Then when Elijah and Enoch hear that the shameless one has revealed himself in the holy place, they will come down ...
by arnoldo
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thomas L Brodie on Ehrman's 'Did Jesus Exist?'and oral traditions
Replies: 53
Views: 6239

Re: Thomas L Brodie on Ehrman's 'Did Jesus Exist?'and oral traditions

Diogenes the Cynic wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:47 pm
I wish I could get his book on Kindle. I'm glad he's calling out supposed underlying "oral tradition" for the wishful thinking that it really is.
Amazon has another book of his available for $9.99 on kindle. Google books has a preview available.
by arnoldo
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thomas L Brodie on Ehrman's 'Did Jesus Exist?'and oral traditions
Replies: 53
Views: 6239

Re: Thomas L Brodie on Ehrman's 'Did Jesus Exist?'and oral traditions

The following review : Verheyden, Joseph. “Biblica.” Biblica, vol. 87, no. 3, 2006, pp. 439–442. JSTOR, JSTOR , www.jstor.org/stable/42614699 brought up a point which came to mind. Brodie appears to present that the gospels must have either an entirely literary origin or based on oral tradition. The...
by arnoldo
Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: outside the city = in the heaven: Why even Richard Carrier is wrong!
Replies: 16
Views: 3445

Re: outside the city = in the heaven: Why even Richard Carrier is wrong!

11 The high priest carries the blood of animals into the Most Holy Place as a sin offering, but the bodies are burned outside the camp. 12 And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. 13 Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrac...