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by arnoldo
Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion denies that the our 4 gospels preceded the his gospel
Replies: 3
Views: 108

Re: Marcion denies that the our 4 gospels preceded the his gospel

Here is the confession escaped from Tertullian. Marcion being expelled from the Church in 144 CE, he continued to preach his doctrine, and he did not ignore the gospels that opposed the his Evangelion. Of course, he denied them, and Tertullian gives us the reason: they were (for Marcion) false gosp...
by arnoldo
Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion denies that the our 4 gospels preceded the his gospel
Replies: 3
Views: 108

Re: Marcion denies that the our 4 gospels preceded the his gospel

FWIW, The Latin phrase "Sub apostolorum nomine aduntur et etiam apostolicorum" (Tertullian, Adversus Marcionem , IV, 3) thus removed from the context loses its meaning also because it is cited incorrectly (see "aduntur" instead of "eduntur »). The whole passage is as follows: «Sed enim Marcion nact...
by arnoldo
Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Three Assumptions
Replies: 112
Views: 32449

Re: Three Assumptions

I don't see why the story of Jesus' burial couldn't have had the powers of a mustard seed and flourished in Mark's narrative (whether in Mark's mind or Peter's), but I also don't see why Jesus couldn't have actually been buried in a tomb and Paul just didn't mention it. There are no narrative detai...
by arnoldo
Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:12 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Three Assumptions
Replies: 112
Views: 32449

Re: Three Assumptions

Three assumptions seem to be prevalent here. I am not expecting discussion of this point but am simply wanting to express what I see as limitations in some of the discussions. . . Third: Oral tradition. The assumption that the evangelists drew upon oral traditions for their sources is so prevalent ...
by arnoldo
Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Three Assumptions
Replies: 112
Views: 32449

Re: Three Assumptions

arnoldo wrote: Josephus wrote under extraordinary circumstances which must be taken into consideration. Abstract In the portrayal of David in his paraphrase of the Bible in the Antiquities, Josephus was confronted with a dilemma. On the one hand, as the beneficiary of so many gifts from the Romans,...
by arnoldo
Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Three Assumptions
Replies: 112
Views: 32449

Re: Three Assumptions

I don't think Josephus is "silent" about the messianism of the Fourth Philosophy at all. He says that they expected "about that time one from their country should become governor of the habitable earth," and my guess is that this refers to "the Messiah" since this governor was expected to rule over...
by arnoldo
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:38 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Grateful Dead
Replies: 106
Views: 144825

Re: Grateful Dead

Oc1UhRUTKsU Just like the prodigal son, when he was far from home He wanted to go back and tell his father he had done wrong He fell on his knees, the Lord answered his pleas Said "If you go back home I'll go with thee" Just like the Israelites, who were Pharaoh's slaves They suffered in bondage an...
by arnoldo
Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Arguments concerning the Testimonium Taciteum.
Replies: 131
Views: 29013

Re: Arguments concerning the Testimonium Taciteum.

Regarding the meaning of the Emperor Julian’s writing in the following passage; It is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind the reasons by which I was convinced that the fabrication of the Galilaeans is a fiction of men composed by wickedness. Though it has in it nothing divine, by making ...
by arnoldo
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What if only the Romans killed Jesus (in the Earliest Gospel)?
Replies: 5
Views: 2439

Re: What if only the Romans killed Jesus (in the Earliest Gospel)?

The Roman Emperor Julian didn't even consider that question. Yet Jesus, who won over the least worthy of you, has been known by name for but little more than three hundred years: and during his lifetime he accomplished nothing worth hearing of, unless anyone thinks that to heal crooked and blind men...