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by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 206
Views: 4411

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

There is actually this “proto-Gospel” in Paul’s letters. I don't know if you insist in repeating this false claim because of ignorance or of indifference about the best mythicist paradigm that assumes demons as the original killers in Paul, and not Romans. Eh, it was just about Pilate and Barabbas....
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 206
Views: 4411

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

even apart from Klinghardt, even under the Markan priority, I have to assume a proto-Gospel without the released Barabbas, and therefore without the releaser P i l a t e. In the place of the latter, an anonymous Roman "governor", traces of which are survived in Matthew (for example in Mat...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 206
Views: 4411

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

... but you pointed out in past somewhere here in the forum how the Markan text is bluntly broken by the Salome episode. "Bluntly broken"? I've never said anything like that about any pericope in GMark. in the sense that Mark 6:30 follows directly Mark 6:13, hence the reference to Herod c...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 206
Views: 4411

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

Giuseppe wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:29 pm... but you pointed out in past somewhere here in the forum how the Markan text is bluntly broken by the Salome episode.
"Bluntly broken"? I've never said anything like that about any pericope in GMark.
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 28
Views: 631

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

And in Mark 3 we read: 31 Then His mother and His brothers arrived , and standing outside they sent word to Him and called Him. 32 A crowd was sitting around Him, and they said to Him, “Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are outside looking for You.” ... Mark 2 & 3 indicate that Jesus and hi...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 206
Views: 4411

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

The decision also has to do with the fact that the Barabbas story forms a parallel to the Salome story. This is old hat among some Markan scholars (John = Jesus, Herod = Pilate, Herodias = chief priests, Salome = Jewish people, Herod's oath - privilegium paschale, Birthday feast - Pascha feast, Jes...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 206
Views: 4411

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

I'm glad to here it! I like to know why i'm confused but it's not a feminist theory if you think that's what happened though and they all stole off her and didn't attribute, that happens. someone that opposes feminism isn't going to come up with a theory like that but it doesn't mean only someone t...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 206
Views: 4411

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

(Of course I have the feeling that the critical perspective of the 19th and 20th centuries is being abandoned here and we are falling back into the deepest "superstition") I don't understand this comment. I just meant that in case you give up Paul's priority. Good to hear you're not switc...
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 206
Views: 4411

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

maryhelena wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:59 am Perhaps she would need to listen to what his mother had to say before she puts her own account into print.... ;)
Who knows if there isn't tension between the two. This could get tricky ;)
by Kunigunde Kreuzerin
Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A real strong argument to doubt about the Baptist Passage in Josephus by Jean Magne
Replies: 18
Views: 370

Re: A real strong argument to doubt about the Baptist Passage in Josephus by Jean Magne

Apologists like Kreuzerin deny that John is the Euhemerization and Judaization of the preacher (keryx) of the baptise in the crater, described in CH IV as the means of the acquisition of the intellect (nous). I'll tell you a secret :shh: Schillingklaus was absolutely right. Every morning I deny thr...