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by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 118
Views: 5695

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

And I am really just skeptical that it's even possible to justify the premise mentioned at all. It seems like a major flaw.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 118
Views: 5695

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

Most likely a satisfactory answer to that question moves beyond a mechanical search through the text of Josephus. By which I mean that the scope of data considered would have to be wider, not just Josephus, or that the consideration would have to be motivated by some other knowledge by which we can ...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 118
Views: 5695

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

I am resting my case specifically on how Josephus uses the two forms of adelphonymics without any apparent exception that I have yet found I understand what you're doing on that level, but you haven't answered the question of how you know that the distinctions that you're making are necessary in yo...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Replies: 13
Views: 142

Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke

Alternatively, "Luke" was chosen as a pseudonym to counter the tradition of "Mark" being an associate of Paul and involved in writing his gospel (heretical associations). And "Mark" had the association with Paul obscured by an association with Peter.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 118
Views: 5695

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

Well, unless we can speculate a very convincing reason, I think Occam’s razor still cuts through to the much simpler explanation that the passage actually was original to Josephus I think that you have not read my confession here , where I have given up to doubt about the authenticity of the Baptis...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke
Replies: 13
Views: 142

Re: Every time Paul mentions Mark, he also mentions Luke

Possibly Mark and Luke were important in Christian circles, and they worked alongside one of the greats, Paul, before going on to do their own things literarily after Paul died. Think of people like Steve Martin and Martin Short, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. Famous people work with other famous peopl...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion
Replies: 37
Views: 418

Re: back to the drawing board? the missing sondergut Marcion

So my question is: Does the evidence best support (1)/(3), or is there some good reason to suggest (2)/(4) here? TL;DR: If there were any Marcionite sondergut, it's hard to imagine that the Father's wouldn't have jumped all over it. Feel free to skip the wall-of-text that follows. It's always trick...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 118
Views: 5695

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

Well, unless we can speculate a very convincing reason, I think Occam’s razor still cuts through to the much simpler explanation that the passage actually was original to Josephus I think that you have not read my confession here , where I have given up to doubt about the authenticity of the Baptis...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 118
Views: 5695

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

My TF page also has the obvious claims/arguments about how this may or may not be comparable. Pallas was famous.

Arguably this pushes the question more towards how well known Jesus was, rather than how impossible the reference is on its own, independent of that.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 118
Views: 5695

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

My TF page also has this: There is at least one other occasion in which Josephus identies an individual by identifying his brother and in which this brother is not mentioned earlier in the text. Wars of the Jews 2.247. "After this Caesar sent Felix, the brother of Pallas, to be procurator of Ga...