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by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:10 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 467
Views: 17573

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

ICG 1253, Phrygia, ca. 200-350 note: "Dating according to Tabbernee: ca. 275-310" Εὐτύχης Αμμιᾳ νύν- φῃ κ̳ὲ̳ Τατιᾳ ἐγγόνῃ κ̳ὲ̳ Μα- κεδὼν υἱῷ ἑαυτοῦ κ̳ὲ̳ τῇ ἑαυτοῦ συμβίῳ Αμμι- 5 ᾳ κ̳ὲ̳ Εὐτύχης υἱὸς αὐτ- ῶν ζῶντες ἐπ[οί]ησαν Χριστια[νοὶ Χριστι]ανοῖς. Eutyches for Ammia, his daughter-in-law,...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is 'called Christ' in Ant 20:200 a Christian gloss just as 'born by woman' is a Catholic gloss in Gal 4:4?
Replies: 11
Views: 127

Re: Is 'called Christ' in Ant 20:200 a Christian gloss just as 'born by woman' is a Catholic gloss in Gal 4:4?

I kinda don't get it. Hanging around at creation but not the Son? An angel perhaps, given a promotion? I think Ehrman believes something along those lines, though I haven't looked into that. The "sending his Son" language (Rom 8:3, Gal 4:4) may suggest otherwise. I also tend to discount p...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is 'called Christ' in Ant 20:200 a Christian gloss just as 'born by woman' is a Catholic gloss in Gal 4:4?
Replies: 11
Views: 127

Re: Is 'called Christ' in Ant 20:200 a Christian gloss just as 'born by woman' is a Catholic gloss in Gal 4:4?

GakuseiDon wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:35 pm According to Paul, Jesus became Son of God at the resurrection. Christians can inherit the mantle via adoption. That would be true whether Jesus was pre-existent or not.
I kinda don't get it. Hanging around at creation but not the Son?
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were Marcionites keepers of the original Christian faith?
Replies: 4
Views: 56

Re: Were Marcionites keepers of the original Christian faith?

Were the Marcionites the keepers of the original Christian faith? (1) Was their faith represented by the original Pauline epistles? If so, where did the author of the original Pauline epistles get his ideas from? Are you referring to the Marcionite versions of the Pauline gospels? or, Are you refer...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:52 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 467
Views: 17573

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

ICG 1286, Phrygia, ca. 200-400 note: "Dating according to Tabbernee: 250-275. According to MAMA: 3rd century" https://icg.uni-kiel.de/icg/ICG_webapp/inscription/show/1286 Μηνόφιλος καὶ ἡ̳ ̳γ̳υν̳ὴ̳ α̣ὐτοῦ Αμ̳μ̳ια Παιθῳ ἀ- δελφῷ Χρειστι- 5 ανῷ κ̳ὲ̳ Ἀλεξαν- δρία Παιθῳ ἀν- δρὶ κ̳ὲ̳ τὰ παιδία α...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:48 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 467
Views: 17573

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

ICG 1285, Phrygia, ca. 200-400

note: "Dating according to Tabbernee: 250-275."

https://icg.uni-kiel.de/icg/ICG_webapp/ ... /show/1285

Ἡδῖα Χρειστ̳ε̳ιαν̳ή̳.

Hedia, a Christian.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:32 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Were Marcionites keepers of the original Christian faith?
Replies: 4
Views: 56

Were Marcionites keepers of the original Christian faith?

Were the Marcionites the keepers of the original Christian faith? (1) Was their faith represented by the original Pauline epistles? If so, where did the author of the original Pauline epistles get his ideas from? (2) Was the Gospel they used the first written text with an extended story about Jesus?...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:07 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 467
Views: 17573

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

ICG 1073, Phrygia, ca. 300-400 note: "Calder dated the inscription to the 3rd century. Gibson dates it to the 4th century, among other things, because of the letter shapes. However, the typical ligature of OY seems to justify an even later dating approach." https://icg.uni-kiel.de/icg/ICG_...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:05 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 467
Views: 17573

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

ICG 974, Phrygia, 212-400 notes: "Ramsay considers a post-Constantinian dating. Tabbernee dates to no later than 250-275." https://icg.uni-kiel.de/icg/ICG_webapp/inscription/show/974 Αὐρ. Πρόκλος Ζωτικοῦ ἐπόη̳σ̳α τὸ ἡ̳ρ̳ῷον̳ ̳ἐ̳μαυτῷ κ̳ὲ̳ τ̳ῇ̳ γυναικί μου 5 Μελτίν̳ῃ̳. Χρειστι- ανῶν. I, Aur...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:24 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 467
Views: 17573

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

ICG 3710, Galatia, ca. 300-400 ☧ ἐνθάδε κεῖτε Γοργονεία ἡ τὸν βείον καλῶς δεια- 4 γαγοῦσα μετὰ τοῦ εἰδεί- ου ἀνδρὸς καὶ τῶν εἰδε- ίων τέκνων· χά<ι>ρη- ☧ τε οἱ παράγοντες με- 8 τὰ τῶν εἰδείων πάν- των· ἔχῃ πρὸς τὸν Θεὸν κὲ πρὸς τὸν Χρειστὸν αὐτοῦ εἴ τεις κλέψει ΤΟ. . . ΤΕΙΑΝ 12 (hedera) [ - - - - - ]...