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by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen's interesting ideas
Replies: 15
Views: 326

Re: Origen's interesting ideas

Origen's discussion here in Commentary on John is longer than what I just quoted: (40) And that which John calls an eternal gospel, which would properly be called a spiritual gospel, clearly presents both the mysteries presented by Christ's words and the things of which his acts were symbols, to tho...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 36
Views: 1074

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

Surely spin will dine with Ben C. Smith in elysium together with Kunigunde, Ken, Andrew, and all the saints.

Or something like that.
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen's interesting ideas
Replies: 15
Views: 326

Re: Origen's interesting ideas

This sounds like more on similar themes from Origen. Commentary on John 1.40 And that which John calls an eternal gospel, which would properly be called a spiritual gospel, clearly presents both the mysteries presented by Christ's words and the things of which his acts were symbols, to those who con...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus' home in Capernaum?
Replies: 36
Views: 1074

Re: Jesus' home in Capernaum?

RandyHelzerman wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:46 pm I tend to agree with this random person on the internet
Pseudonymous but spin's been around for some 20 or so years and has brought forward some good stuff in that time.
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 30
Views: 310

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

Metaphorically speaking, you are a philosopher arguing with the zeal of a Saint Paul, on fire for the good news. *chuckle* Except the wisdom I share isn't just foolishness to this world, its foolishness toot court. As such, I think your remarks were too deep for me; don't quite get what you mean. A...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 30
Views: 310

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

But the Talmud placed Jesus under Janneus. The Jesus lived under Pilate was a myth, according to that Talmudic tradition. Don't quite follow the reasoning here. The Talmud asserts that Jesus *actually existed*-in our historical spacetime--yet, because they got the dates wrong, they are Mythicists? ...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 216
Views: 2106

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

I am not persuaded that nobody has been surprised by this book. *chuckle* come on man. Nobody was surprised by this book qua an uncatalogued book. If it would be so surprising to find uncatalogued books at Mar Saba---why did Morton Smith even want to go there? Why would they even have given him per...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 30
Views: 310

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

JarekS wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:26 pm David Litwa should know that he is presenting personal naive speculation
And how do you believe that your own presentation efforts should be summed up?
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:38 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter
Replies: 23
Views: 333

Re: Comments on Handwriting Analysis and the Mar Saba Letter

It remains fact that putative "Secret Mark" surprised. And that the best paleographer should not be dismissed. Aside, if I am allowed the following, for which I could provide details. Many have heard the phrase, three kinds of lies, "lies, damned lies, and statistics." That foll...
by Peter Kirby
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 216
Views: 2106

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

OK, though elsewhere you have said you prefer to avoid hypotheticals. That there is a yet-unknown such reference is a hypothetical. To be fair. Perhaps you misunderstand me. I have not offered this 'hypothetical' as something directly relevant to the debate, as-is. I have indicated it as a possible...