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by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:58 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 458
Views: 17482

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

ICG 1354, Lydia, ca. 3rd century noted here: "Premerstein dates the inscription to the time before Decius (similar to Tabbernee). Schuler dates it to the end of the 2nd / beginning of the 3rd century." https://icg.uni-kiel.de/icg/ICG_webapp/inscription/show/1354 [ἔτους ․․․ʹ], μη(νὸς) Λώου ...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:49 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 458
Views: 17482

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

ICG 1142, Phrygia, dated 242-243 https://icg.uni-kiel.de/icg/ICG_webapp/inscription/show/1142 η(νὸς) ἀ(πιόντος) [Ἔ]τους τκζ ̓ μ ι ̓ , δ ̓, Αὐρ. Σατορνεῖνος δ[ὶ]ς Χρειστιανὸς [ἐν]θά- δε κεῖται κατασκευ- 5 άσας αὐτῷ [τὸν αἰώ]- [νιο]ν οἶκον̣ [ἔτι ζῶν] [ὡ]ς μηδεν̣[ὶ ἄλλῳ ἐξ]- ὸν ἐ[πει]σε[νέγκειν] ἄ̣[λλο...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:40 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 458
Views: 17482

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

ICG 1264, Phrygia, probably dated 248 - 249 noted here: "Dating according to the Sullan era. According to Calder (BullJRylLib 7, 1922) the dating is certain. However, the photo shows traces at best. Leschhorn puts a question mark on the dating." https://icg.uni-kiel.de/icg/ICG_webapp/inscr...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:10 pm
Forum: Academic Discussion
Topic: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος
Replies: 458
Views: 17482

Re: The X-Files: Chrēstos / Christos / Χρειστος

Given its relevance for interpreting the epigraphic data, this is now part of the "Arguments" section. Gary J. Johnson on "A Christian Business and Christian Self-Identity in Third/Fourth Century Phrygia," Vigiliae Christianae , Vol. 48, No. 4 (Dec. 1994), pp. 341-366. http://www...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:38 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 660

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

If books were always brought out and returned by the monks, isn't that an argument right there?

Or does someone imagine that one book was swapped for another, and that a different book absconded off with Smith, who thereby deposited the Voss?
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 660

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

Secret Alias wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:31 pm But not just that it was regarded as authentic. Seraphim was there when Smith discovered the text. How did Smith and Landau know that Smith knew Seraphim? He must have been the one getting the books. I bet.
That's speculation, though. And Smith had access to the library, right.
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 660

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

Smith and Landau add something to the story: Flusser remembers that they did encounter one bump in the road. When the team of scholars attempted to leave with the book, “Abbot Seraphim,” an old friend of Smith who presided over Mar Saba, “raised hell,” demanding that “they would have to request it,...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives
Replies: 101
Views: 660

Re: Greek Monks Who Thought the Letter to Theodore was in the Mar Saba Monastery Before Morton Smith Arrives

The question is whether they would have remembered a coverless Latin book with 18th century Greek handwriting in the blank back pages. Or better yet could Seraphim have accepted that such a distinctive text which was never there before suddenly appeared there almost 20 years after he arrived at Mar...
by Peter Kirby
Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen on the heterodox
Replies: 22
Views: 204

Re: Origen on the heterodox

Origen also has an aside for "those who think that the divinity of the Saviour is not at all demonstrable from the Gospel of Matthew": Commentary on Matthew 12.6 And moreover this also is to be observed, in view of those who think that the divinity of the Saviour is not at all demonstrable...