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by stevencarrwork
Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 11823

Re: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book

This is why I want to see the quotes indicating what Ehrman said as his before and after positions. It does seem important to establish this. If you can't give direct quotations, then I'll let you go your way. Let's go back to ignoring each other. Thanks. Although Ehrman writes many times that he h...
by stevencarrwork
Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 11823

Re: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book

So although Ehrman wrote many blog posts in 2013, after Did Jesus Exist? about how he has recently changed his position on what the earliest Christians believed, Ehrman has not changed his views on what early Christians believed. In April 2013, Ehrman wrote 'And I simply did not get it, for the long...
by stevencarrwork
Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 11823

Re: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book

But, in fact, Ehrman had already decided by the time he had written 'Did Jesus Exist' that the earliest Christians believed that Jesus was an angel. This is what Ehrman wrote in 'Did Jesus Exist' on page 237: Another option is that this [Phil 2] is describing Christ as a preexistent angelic being ....
by stevencarrwork
Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 11823

Re: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book

What is most significant is that Christ--whether a preexistent divine being, Adam, or an angel (I prefer the final interpretation myself) ...[/list] So clearly Ehrman has not changed his view on Paul regarding Jesus being an angel, but only on his views on what the Synoptics imply. Carrier might be...
by stevencarrwork
Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 11823

Re: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book

10 April 2013

http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-christology/

Presumably Ehrman changed his mind on Paul recently (as dated in 2013), ie after 'Did Jesus Exist'?
by stevencarrwork
Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 11823

Re: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book

John T wrote: "So yes, now I agree that Jesus is portrayed as a divine being, a God-man, in all the Gospels. But in very different ways, depending on which Gospel you read."...Ehrman
So you are claiming that Carrier says the Gospels are not different from each other?
by stevencarrwork
Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 11823

Re: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book

On Ehrman changing his mind. IIUC Ehrman started working on How Jesus became God a number of years ago. I.E. he wrote Did Jesus Exist after he had already began working on How Jesus became God . If so references in How Jesus became God to Ehrman having changed his mind while researching this book p...
by stevencarrwork
Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book
Replies: 164
Views: 11823

Re: Richard Carrier slams Ehrman's latest book

Again, I don't know what Ehrman writes in his latest book, but based on DJE, Carrier is almost certainly exaggerating here. Criticize Ehrman for thinking that there is any history in the Gospels, okay, that might be fair. But "Ehrman resorts to a literalist reading of Mark, treating the text essent...
by stevencarrwork
Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ehrman v. Bob Price debate?
Replies: 67
Views: 14654

Re: Ehrman v. Bob Price debate?

Wow! 5,000 dollars to read out Galatians 1:19 in public. Which is all Ehrman has on his side of the debate.

How much is that per word?
by stevencarrwork
Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Craig Evans talking about Wallace's mummy mask Mark fragment
Replies: 43
Views: 3599

Re: Craig Evans talking about Wallace's mummy mask Mark frag

^It's not up to him, apparently. It's just up to him to announce all these results, literally YEARS in advance of when anybody can check what he says for accuracy. They have done all the C-14, paleography research etc etc etc, All done, all dusted, all totally satisfactory. No problems that need to...