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by allegoria
Mon May 06, 2024 8:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: According to Gill’s Exposition, the Ethiopic Bible has a different reading of Luke 12:52?
Replies: 1
Views: 75

According to Gill’s Exposition, the Ethiopic Bible has a different reading of Luke 12:52?

It says: “The Ethiopic version reads, "two shall be separated from three, and one shall be separated from two".” I can’t find this passage anywhere. Which Ethiopic version is he referring to? I’ve always felt that Luke 12:49-53 hints at something deeper: 49“I came to cast fire on the earth...
by allegoria
Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.
Replies: 17
Views: 777

Re: Book 6.5.3 of Wars of the Jews.

Joseph D. L. wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:51 am A cow gave birth to a lamb? Huh. I really didn't see that one coming. :o
Lots of early / medieval nativity art show a cow or ox right next to the stable.
by allegoria
Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How should the “rollercoaster” phrase in Romans 10:6-8 be understood?
Replies: 7
Views: 506

How should the “rollercoaster” phrase in Romans 10:6-8 be understood?

The sequence of thought is very strange to me. For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Chr...
by allegoria
Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Melito called Jesus the Father. What are some other strange Christologies found in the Church Fathers?
Replies: 3
Views: 287

Melito called Jesus the Father. What are some other strange Christologies found in the Church Fathers?

In On Pascha 8-9 Melito writes For he was born a son, and led as a lamb, and slaughtered as a sheep, and buried as a man, and rose from the dead as God, being God by his nature and a man. He is all things. He is law, in that he judges. He is word, in that he teaches. He is grace, in that he saves. H...
by allegoria
Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What do we know about the revenue / expenditures of early churches?
Replies: 9
Views: 354

What do we know about the revenue / expenditures of early churches?

What were their primary means of revenue (donations from individual rich donors versus average “member” collections)? What percentage of the revenue went where? This I am really interested in: what percent went to expensive incense and oil, what percent to feasts, what percent to aiding the poor, wh...
by allegoria
Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do any Church Fathers state or imply that Jesus spoke Aramaic during his ministry (ie in gospel)?
Replies: 19
Views: 662

Re: Do any Church Fathers state or imply that Jesus spoke Aramaic during his ministry (ie in gospel)?

they can say for sure. I went down a rabbit hole on the letter I mentioned and still have more to read about it before a proper reply (apparently there is considerable controversy about it which I hadn’t realized, my fault for trusting Wikipedia — some translated it as “no desire to write in Hebrew...
by allegoria
Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Do any Church Fathers state or imply that Jesus spoke Aramaic during his ministry (ie in gospel)?
Replies: 19
Views: 662

Do any Church Fathers state or imply that Jesus spoke Aramaic during his ministry (ie in gospel)?

There is at least one professor who entertains the idea Jesus spoke Greek during his teachings: https://www.wisluthsem.org/did-jesus-speak-greek/ It is odd that if Jesus spoke Aramaic primarily, the gospel writers would translate into Greek using the same basic language with mostly just additions or...
by allegoria
Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 69
Views: 8446

Re: History trumps Theology

whitewash its anti humanitarian reality disturbing If it is anti-humanitarian, then we should see that humanitarianism begins with non-Christians. We would also see that Christians donate the least to humanitarian organizations. We don’t see this. Some of the first humanitarians were Christians and...
by allegoria
Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 69
Views: 8446

Re: History trumps Theology

Good Friday in action today. Theology having a field day. Are you sure you understand what theology is? All the mainstream (and original) theologians do not believe that a person should literally carry a cross to fulfill Christ’s metaphorical demand in Matthew 16:24. When we interpret this passage ...
by allegoria
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: History trumps Theology
Replies: 69
Views: 8446

Re: Any pre-325 CE writings where Jesus' historicity was doubted?

The historical act ? What historical act are you referring to ? The historical activity that underlies a religious story. For instance, the historical details of the sacrifice of Isaac are not actually “spiritually useful” for understanding the event. The meaning of the sacrifice of Isaac resides i...