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- Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:16 am
- Forum: Classical Texts and History
- Topic: Why No Wooden Horse?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 16925
Re: Why No Wooden Horse?
You keep saying Pentateuch, but really you ought to be saying "Genesis and Deuteronomy." There were more than two epics on Troy, and the Trojan Horse is described in the Iliou Persis: Next come two books of the "Sack of Ilium", by Arctinus of Miletus with the following contents. ...
- Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:51 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114427
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
As far as I know, there isn't anyone else who was called "Christos/Christus". 1. Many people are called Christos in the Septuagint. 2. Chrestus (frequently conflated with Christus) was a common name, and Suetonius attests to such a person causing a ruckus among the Roman Jews under Claudi...
- Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:35 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114427
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
First, that argument is akin to saying that a reference to Peliades is not a reference to Achilles. As far as I know, there isn't anyone else who was called "Christos/Christus". Second, I have indeed dealt with Tacitus in this very thread. Do reread. Finally, Pliny's evidence provides prec...
- Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:18 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114427
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
though it is clear that the TF has been interfered with That much is clear, although to what extant is under debate. I lean toward the "fixed up nicely" camp, although as some have pointed out, the stark difference between our current TF and the Arabic one shows what a much less interpola...
- Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114427
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
If what you are to proposing is that the created figure of the gospel Jesus was based upon a real flesh and blood figure, you have actually not taken this debate anywhere. It's historicity that is under discussion in the historicist verse ahistoricist/mythicist debate not existence. The historicict...
- Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:11 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114427
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
Would that conclusion change if the Jesus of the Gospels had been depicted as eating a lot of spinach before his miracles? Would George Washington stop existing if it was shown that he did not, in fact, admit to cutting down his father's cherry tree? Still going strong with the Popeye defense..... ...
- Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:03 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114427
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
DiMattei is drawing an important distinction here. Just because someone's image was radically changed after their death doesn't mean that they didn't exist. Would that conclusion change if the Jesus of the Gospels had been depicted as eating a lot of spinach before his miracles? Would George Washin...
- Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:02 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114427
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
DiMattei is drawing an important distinction here. Just because someone's image was radically changed after their death doesn't mean that they didn't exist.
- Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:54 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Proofs That Jesus Existed
- Replies: 422
- Views: 435286
Re: Apostate Abe's Short Argument
I believe jesus existed. Therefore, Jesus existed. They really need to make a thread of proofs Jesus did not exist. Some great ones exist already for it: I believe Jesus did not exist. Therefore, Jesus did not exist. Or how about: There were other mythical beings. Jesus is a mythical being. Therefo...
- Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
- Replies: 135
- Views: 114427
Re: Steven DiMattei: Case Against Mythicists
Hey Chris, have you had a chance to read the discussion of Tacitus that took over the "when was the term christians first used" thread for a while? http://earlywritings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4977#p4977 If you're interested, I'd invite you to go through that discussion and then reply o...