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by ApostateAbe
Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fun with Bayes' theorem and the argument from silence
Replies: 20
Views: 20613

Re: Fun with Bayes' theorem and the argument from silence

cienfuegos, the problem of how the character of a messiah that gets crucified develops into a popular religion is a problem, no doubt about it, but I do not understand how the problem is solved by mythicism. With mythicism, you still have a myth of a messiah who gets crucified as a criminal. Either ...
by ApostateAbe
Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fun with Bayes' theorem and the argument from silence
Replies: 20
Views: 20613

Re: Fun with Bayes' theorem and the argument from silence

If all competing theories both make that prediction, then no strong argument is made from absence of evidence. That doesn't make sense. OK, I think of the strength of an explanation as being relative rather than absolute. An explanation is strong only if it is stronger than all competing explanatio...
by ApostateAbe
Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fun with Bayes' theorem and the argument from silence
Replies: 20
Views: 20613

Re: Fun with Bayes' theorem and the argument from silence

MrMacSon wrote:Yes, absence of evidence is predictive.
Yes, or theories are predictive, and one of the predictions may be absence of evidence. If all competing theories both make that prediction, then no strong argument is made from absence of evidence.
by ApostateAbe
Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How mythicists are perceived by students and academics
Replies: 90
Views: 81281

Re: How mythicists are perceived by students and academics

MrMacSon wrote:it's less likely to be 'the "twelve" '; it's more likely to be "the twelve".
OK, can you explain that? What is your interpretation of Paul's "the twelve"?
by ApostateAbe
Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How mythicists are perceived by students and academics
Replies: 90
Views: 81281

Re: How mythicists are perceived by students and academics

perseusomega9 wrote:Congratulations on undermining your own argument in a span of 21 minutes then
:scratch: K.
by ApostateAbe
Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How mythicists are perceived by students and academics
Replies: 90
Views: 81281

Re: How mythicists are perceived by students and academics

perseusomega9 wrote:I'm sure you can show us Price doing that
The information comes via one of the listeners of his podcast, and I don't often listen to his podcast, so I don't know for certain.
by ApostateAbe
Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fun with Bayes' theorem and the argument from silence
Replies: 20
Views: 20613

Re: Fun with Bayes' theorem and the argument from silence

MrMacson, expectations of a theory are essential. Another way to express the principle is "predictive."
by ApostateAbe
Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How mythicists are perceived by students and academics
Replies: 90
Views: 81281

Re: How mythicists are perceived by students and academics

Is it though? What's interesting about it? It's mirrored everywhere. People of every stripe have ignorance and prejudice as their sword and shield. Yes, but I do think mythicists are a special case in many respects. Some of the patterns of thinking I see among mythicists I don't see among other ide...
by ApostateAbe
Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fun with Bayes' theorem and the argument from silence
Replies: 20
Views: 20613

Re: Fun with Bayes' theorem and the argument from silence

Absence of evidence can be either a strong or a weak argument for the non-existence hypothesis, depending on the respective expectations of each hypothesis. Maybe we really do strongly expect to find strong evidence given the existence hypothesis. If we do NOT expect to find strong evidence given th...