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by robert j
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.
Replies: 78
Views: 15341

Re: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.

In a somewhat recent post in another thread, you provided the statement directly below, and provided a link to your OP in this thread --- ... I have argued on this forum that Mark is not telling a new story; he is telling one already known at least in part to his readers. Whether that story was oral...
by robert j
Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:33 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH
Replies: 32
Views: 6706

Re: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH

Robert j, a known Giuseppe sycophantic, coming to his master's aid. LOL. I do remember complimenting Giuseppe once some time ago --- that compliment was for posting his assertions as opinions instead of facts. Other than occasionally posting objections on the issues, mostly I don’t read his posts.
by robert j
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH
Replies: 32
Views: 6706

Re: Why the Gnostics wanted that the Jews abandoned YHWH

Not addressed to me, but to another participant —- ... you cretinous, imbecilic, mentally incestuous figlio di puttana ... You're a moron who doesn't anything about this. Do us all a favor and contract a flesh eating disease. For those that might be interested, I've posted a response in "Forum Busin...
by robert j
Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding the Christian Story
Replies: 24
Views: 4882

Re: Understanding the Christian Story

Secret Alias wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:14 pm
robert j wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:51 pm

... But Paul’s letters ...
I admit it's a weak argument ...
Well, that's more from you than I expected.
by robert j
Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding the Christian Story
Replies: 24
Views: 4882

Re: Understanding the Christian Story

But let's stop pretending that the surviving material isn't associated with Irenaeus - that it isn't tainted - or isn't problematic when trying to determine the origins of Christianity. It is. ... about Paul. ... second and third century Christians believed he had "the Holy Spirit." He knew "by pro...
by robert j
Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Understanding the Christian Story
Replies: 24
Views: 4882

Re: Understanding the Christian Story

So I am trying to flesh out the orthodox story from Irenaeus and Tertullian. It goes something like this ... Is there anything I am missing? ... I won’t venture an opinion on what you might be missing here, but I think at least part of the problem is trying too hard to make sense of the apologetics...
by robert j
Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Must You Be Such A Angry Young Man/Mark1:41 Jesus Angry?
Replies: 98
Views: 63129

Re: Why Must You Be Such A Angry Young Man/Mark1:41 Jesus Angry?

I am (rightly) suspicious of interpretations which posit unmarked, coded correspondences between characters and events in a text, on the one hand, and people and events purportedly in the author's purview, on the other. If I am interpreting this correctly, it goes to the core of our very different ...
by robert j
Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Must You Be Such A Angry Young Man/Mark1:41 Jesus Angry?
Replies: 98
Views: 63129

Re: Why Must You Be Such A Angry Young Man/Mark1:41 Jesus Angry?

The compliment was/is real. Your proposal ... is not of the "super secret decoder ring" variety, and I think it is well worth considering. Thanks again, and for clarifying that. I am (rightly) suspicious of interpretations which posit unmarked, coded correspondences between characters and events in...
by robert j
Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Must You Be Such A Angry Young Man/Mark1:41 Jesus Angry?
Replies: 98
Views: 63129

Re: Why Must You Be Such A Angry Young Man/Mark1:41 Jesus Angry?

I tend to give Acts more merit these days than others here seem to ... You certainly give the tales and 2nd century traditions in Acts way, way more merit that I do. ... it's interesting that Jesus goes on to tell the leper to observe the Torah in 1:43-44: Jesus promptly sent him away with a stern ...
by robert j
Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Must You Be Such A Angry Young Man/Mark1:41 Jesus Angry?
Replies: 98
Views: 63129

Re: Why Must You Be Such A Angry Young Man/Mark1:41 Jesus Angry?

Ben C. Smith wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:40 am

I have to admit, your case for this Pauline interconnection is one of the best I have seen for any idea within hailing distance of the "super secret decoder ring" side of Marcan interpretation.
Thanks, I think ...