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by perseusomega9
Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.
Replies: 48
Views: 1532

Re: The logic of the Nag Hammadi collection.

>there was a known gnostic community living near where the texts were discovered, maybe it was their collection? yep a known gnostic group in exactly the right spot gnostic... so yeah, what does that word mean again? Here's the place I got this from (Nag Hammadi library in english by Robinson), wha...
by perseusomega9
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Late dating of Mark: How far would you go? And what are your arguments?
Replies: 43
Views: 3565

Re: Late dating of Mark: How far would you go? And what are your arguments?

The consensus dating of 'about' 70 CE seems too early when the apostles and family members are already depicted in a once-upon-time setting when in reality these supposedly very Jewish followers of Jesus are only now recently dead.
by perseusomega9
Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Marcion Against Fucking or Pregnancy or Bringing Souls into the World?
Replies: 3
Views: 2175

Re: Was Marcion Against Fucking or Pregnancy or Bringing Souls into the World?

Were they against against homosexual acts or other non-conceptive forms of sex?
by perseusomega9
Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark was Bishop of Alexandria c. 136 CE?
Replies: 16
Views: 5517

Re: Mark was Bishop of Alexandria c. 136 CE?

Note: Valentinus and Marcion are specified as 'coming' to Rome. In the haze of lost memory/history, apologetics, or general obfuscation-is it possible these references to one heretic or another 'coming to Rome' really just a reference to when their writings/belief system made it to Rome and not the...
by perseusomega9
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Qn and GMarc Reconstruction Update
Replies: 13
Views: 6571

Re: Qn and GMarc Reconstruction Update

Can you point me to any scholarly publications that claim that Tertullian was not consulting and quoting from Marcion's Gospel? I honestly have never come across this view in the scholarly literature, even from those who take the most minimalist approach to reconstructing Marcion's Gospel. Yet even...
by perseusomega9
Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Qn and GMarc Reconstruction Update
Replies: 13
Views: 6571

Re: Qn and GMarc Reconstruction Update

Have you done any work on the Markionite Apostolikon?
by perseusomega9
Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and Marcion
Replies: 31
Views: 7067

Re: Paul and Marcion

Eusebius, selection bias, heh
by perseusomega9
Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and Marcion
Replies: 31
Views: 7067

Re: Paul and Marcion

james-symeon-jude I class in his 'jewish christian' category. His excerpts strike me as describing a different church/beliefs/practices/history than one finds just a few decades later in Irenaeus.
by perseusomega9
Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul and Marcion
Replies: 31
Views: 7067

Re: Paul and Marcion

Do quotes from Hegesippus ever talk about more orthdox characters and their exploits or is it all this weird mix of jewish/essene/baptizer1/baptizer2/etc./samaritan "jewish christian" types?
by perseusomega9
Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gnosticism Historicized: Historical Figures and Movements
Replies: 7
Views: 1712

Re: Gnosticism Historicized: Historical Figures and Movements

and especially the doctrines of an evil creator (demiurge) below the true God Well. Remember what is the principal corollary, often ignored in this forum: the insistence that Jesus is the Christ or the called Christ was a result of the polemic against haters of YHWH, and not against mere Jews à la ...