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by bcedaifu
Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Best Case for Jesus
Replies: 302
Views: 57283

Re: The Best Case for Jesus

Bernard Muller wrote Why, if there was one male named Simon, from Cyrene (said to have carried Jesus' cross), whose children had been named Alexander and Rufus, and with "Mark" knowing them (at least the brothers), how that does not demonstrate “objectively” that Jesus lived in the first century? Hi...
by bcedaifu
Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mythicism: Two Theories
Replies: 122
Views: 19028

Re: Mythicism: Two Theories

John T wrote: I'm still waiting for that one gem of new truth that Carrier discovered that proves the historical Jesus was all a myth. Mark 1:1, but Carrier didn't discover it, you did. Jesus is the son of God. end of story. John T wrote: There are several written sources outside of the New Testamen...
by bcedaifu
Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Myth of Jewish Christianity
Replies: 135
Views: 16970

Re: The Myth of Jewish Christianity

Sheshbazzar There is no desire by Tanaka educated and observant Jews to 'convert' gentiles to 'Judaism', and to make 'Jews' out of them. For to do such would only be counter-productive, in bringing gentiles now free from curses of the Law of Moses, to under the curses of that Law, to their condemnat...
by bcedaifu
Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Best Case for Jesus
Replies: 302
Views: 57283

Re: The Best Case for Jesus

Bernard Muller the most solid incidental evidence about Jesus as a human on earth in the first century appears only in Galatians (1:19) and gMark (15:21) and Josephus' Antiquities (XX, 9, 1). Peter Kirby replied Good comment! Thanks for this objective criticism. Sheshbazzar If you love the truth, yo...
by bcedaifu
Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:58 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Early Christian Depiction of Jesus as a.God
Replies: 217
Views: 23880

Re: The Early Christian Depiction of Jesus as a.God

Robert J wrote Paul tells about how he, a zealous Jew, once hassled believers in Jesus Christ --- but, Paul implies, he was wrong then just as those hassling you (his congregation) are wrong now. Perhaps I misunderstand this text. I didn't realize that the intended recipients of this letter had been...
by bcedaifu
Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Serapis-Christian links overlays??
Replies: 116
Views: 30531

Re: Serapis-Christian links overlays??

Robert Tulip wrote So the Greek naturalism embodied in the zodiac twelve surrounding Serapis was transformed into the twelve disciples of Jesus Christ. Thank you Robert, always a pleasure to encounter your submission to the forum. Good stuff. How to explain the twelve tribes, or, ten tribes plus two...
by bcedaifu
Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Prospect of a Christian Interpolation in Tacitus
Replies: 34
Views: 8103

Re: The Prospect of a Christian Interpolation in Tacitus

Thank you Roger, for sharing your thoughts on Carrier, and in particular, for highlighting some of his arithmetic manoeuvres of questionable validity. I deny that you misunderstand. I agree, in large part with your assessment, though, I also concur with Carrier's overall thrust, and in that sense, w...
by bcedaifu
Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:49 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Best Case for Jesus
Replies: 302
Views: 57283

Re: The Best Case for Jesus

Peter Kirby wrote We are interested in knowing if there is a man behind the myth. Please compare the cover of DC Action comics # 1, 1938, with the painting Hercules Clubs the Hydra by Antonio del Pollaiolo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Comics_1 Are you as interested to learn whether or not th...
by bcedaifu
Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Myth of Jewish Christianity
Replies: 135
Views: 16970

Re: The Myth of Jewish Christianity

Sheshbazzar wrote: Where do you get the idea that this had to be 'Paul's "new" covenant' _exclusively? Any Jew who could or can read Hebrew could and can read; הנה ימים באים נאם־יהוה וכרתי את־בית ישראל ואת־בית יהודה ברית חדשה׃ לא כברית אשר כרתי את־אבותם ביום החזיקי בידם להוציאם מארץ מצרים אשר־המה הפ...
by bcedaifu
Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Myth of Jewish Christianity
Replies: 135
Views: 16970

Re: The Myth of Jewish Christianity

Maryhelena wrote So - would you say that Thomas Brodie is no longer a Christian since he no longer believes Jesus (and Paul) were historical figures? Surely the essence of a particular faith is not it's outward but it's inward meaning. Symbols are a means to an end not the be all and end all of a re...