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- Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:05 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.
- Replies: 169
- Views: 115458
Re: Ehrman's "How Jesus Became a God" is now out.
^Sure it's possible. Ancient history is not about certainty. But such "possibilities" cut both ways - could you acknowledge that it is POSSIBLE that what was edited/interpolated out of the Pauline corpus were more direct references to Jesus' family and specific earthly times and places th...
- Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:57 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
- Replies: 887
- Views: 610590
Re: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
Primary sources in historical studies & methodology are, by convention/definition, sources from the time in question . ie. 'contemporary' to that time-period. Earliest sources, or 'first' sources currently available to us today, are not necessarily primary sources. Neil is right, though, that c...
- Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:18 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
- Replies: 887
- Views: 610590
Re: Does anyone have On the Historicity of Jesus yet?
I don't think credentials matter when it comes to the like of Holding. It's like asking whether a flat-earther has a degree in astronomy. :l I don't think they matter period. They are used in debates when the credentialed person is getting his ass kicked! Its a way to save face I guess. :confusedsm...
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:55 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Eisenman and the DSS
- Replies: 271
- Views: 163117
Re: Eisenman and the DSS
It was hardly interesting as nothing of any substance was ever brought up by those making wild claims about the origins of the Qumran community. It was all based on wild speculation and misinformation. I gotta ask but what wild speculation and misinformation is that Stephen? If you have a link to o...
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:35 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Eisenman and the DSS
- Replies: 271
- Views: 163117
Re: Eisenman and the DSS
You can run along now content that you've scored some point or other. Ah. Touched a nerve. "spin" you are not qualified as far as I know to evaluate the studies I posted. Post your qualifications, then we'll see. You can say what you want. Your claim that there was "absolutely no evi...
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:45 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Weakness of Carrier/Doherty Heavenly Sacrifice
- Replies: 25
- Views: 18183
Re: Weakness of Carrier/Doherty Heavenly Sacrifice
Nowhere in the primary evidence is such a cosmic event clearly described. The Ascension of Isaiah is rife with problems. Paul spends little ink on this aspect of his Christ. Carrier and Doherty rely on Hebrews to make that case. I actually share your point of view on this, but to be fair, I do not ...
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:29 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Eisenman and the DSS
- Replies: 271
- Views: 163117
Re: Eisenman and the DSS
My point is that you overstated your position. But that's too much for you. Deep responses. You posted info from two papers, which is fair enough, but can't read those papers and deal with any response. Oh, well.[/quote] How would someone "spin" want me to respond? My point is not to get ...
- Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:55 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Eisenman and the DSS
- Replies: 271
- Views: 163117
Re: Eisenman and the DSS
No strong link has been made between the settlement at Qumran and the caves. There is a stronger link between Jerusalem and the caves, as well as the caves near Jericho mentioned from memory by Origen and the caves where Timotheus records scrolls were found in early medieval times. The scrolls were...
- Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:01 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Eisenman and the DSS
- Replies: 271
- Views: 163117
Re: Eisenman and the DSS
No strong link has been made between the settlement at Qumran and the caves. There is a stronger link between Jerusalem and the caves, as well as the caves near Jericho mentioned from memory by Origen and the caves where Timotheus records scrolls were found in early medieval times. The scrolls were...
- Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Real Bottom Line in the Mythicism Debate
- Replies: 139
- Views: 89152
Re: The Real Bottom Line in the Mythicism Debate
Not to belabor the point but the belief of a resurrected Messiah was not unknown before Paul. The Essenes were awaiting the resurrected Messiah, who would herald the coming of the Son of Man. “If true, this [Gabriel’s Revelation] could mean that Jesus’ followers had access to a well-established par...