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by toejam
Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 13.9, 11-13 as an intrusive pericope.
Replies: 5
Views: 90

Re: Mark 13.9, 11-13 as an intrusive pericope.

Makes a lot of sense to me. The claims that "the gospel must first be preached to all the nations", and that followers will be "hated on account of My name", etc., also imply post-Easter language, in my opinion.
by toejam
Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why it 's surprising that Paul didn't mention Pilate
Replies: 18
Views: 421

Re: Why it 's surprising that Paul didn't mention Pilate

^Ignatius wasn't writing with the intent of being as succinct and economical as possible. The texts are polemic. Ignatius wants to stretch his points, not be economical. Your assumption that Ignatius didn't need to mention Pilate to make his point is over stated. Paul distinctly locates Jesus in Jer...
by toejam
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why it 's surprising that Paul didn't mention Pilate
Replies: 18
Views: 421

Re: Why it 's surprising that Paul didn't mention Pilate

Giuseppe said: So tojeam is challenged between the two horns of the beast: if for Paul ''Pilate'' is not relevant, why is ''Pilate'' relevant for Ignatius? Best answer: because the enemies of Ignatius placed probably Jesus not under Pilate. If for Paul ''Pilate'' is relevant, why there is no ''Pila...
by toejam
Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why it 's surprising that Paul didn't mention Pilate
Replies: 18
Views: 421

Re: Why it 's surprising that Paul didn't mention Pilate

A dialogue between Ignatius and Paul: Ignatius : Jesus was really killed under Pilate. Paul : why do you think that the "right time" of the Death of the Son was the time under Pilate? Nobody knows when the Son was killed. Only God knows. Ignatius : Jesus was really killed in Jerusalem. Paul : why d...
by toejam
Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Many will come in my name.
Replies: 35
Views: 701

Re: Many will come in my name.

Signs of sloppy splicing together of sources.
by toejam
Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How does the mythical Jesus thing hang together?
Replies: 107
Views: 2054

Re: How does the mythical Jesus thing hang together?

I get the impression that some readers of OHJ have merely skimmed it only to find what they are expecting to see. The whole point of Carrier writing a prequel volume, and the whole point of those sections in each chapter that many readers seemed to have ignored or found too technical or philosophic...
by toejam
Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Irenaeus on Galatians 2:1 ... "again" present or missing?
Replies: 9
Views: 218

Re: Irenaeus on Galatians 2:1 ... "again" present or missing?

So we definitely don't have a Greek copy AH 3.13.3, right? My understanding is that there are Greek fragments of AH but none from this book.
by toejam
Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Irenaeus on Galatians 2:1 ... "again" present or missing?
Replies: 9
Views: 218

Re: Irenaeus on Galatians 2:1 ... "again" present or missing?

Thanks Ben. So the variation is prominent among Latin texts, but only a single example in the Greek from the 10thC. Interesting.