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by Stuart
Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 1:1-5
Replies: 48
Views: 18620

Re: Romans 1:1-5

Bernard, Understand, I am not your research assistant. Arguments from ignorance carry no weight. I am not the first person to suggest that the titles of the Pauline latters came from the editor of the first collection. You seem unaware of this theory or its's history. Please educate yourself on this...
by Stuart
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 1:1-5
Replies: 48
Views: 18620

Re: Romans 1:1-5

Bernard, The ten letter form I speak of is the Marcionite. If you do not accept the Marcionite text as an earlier form, which I think is an extremely weak position, then these things become "assumptions." But I challenge any claiming they are not earlier forms to explain the vocabulary differences b...
by Stuart
Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 1:1-5
Replies: 48
Views: 18620

Re: Romans 1:1-5

Bernard, My argument goes to the recognition that the Pauline collection was always in some form a collection. As for the individual "letters", I agree with Stephen are tracts, not letters. These tracts were pseudonymous before they were in the collection, and those like the Corinthians and Hebrews ...
by Stuart
Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 1:1-5
Replies: 48
Views: 18620

Re: Romans 1:1-5

Ben, I think you miss the point. I do understand that the letters are in size order. But the first version of Romans in the ten letter collection was much much shorter, roughly 45% the current versions size in terms of words. So size may have set the order, except for Galatians (note Philippians was...
by Stuart
Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 1:1-5
Replies: 48
Views: 18620

Re: Romans 1:1-5

Ben, My preference is "ordained" as that could be taken either adoptionist, which it was probably intended, and was not considered a heretical opinion until well after the bulk of the NT was written, or it could be taken as affirming his status. The Adoptionist, fits the Lukan theology, and the enti...
by Stuart
Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What did Paul mean by brother(s) of the Lord?
Replies: 63
Views: 24546

Re: What did Paul mean by brother(s) of the Lord?

Brothers can range up to sect leaders. Paul considered himself on par with any Apostle/Bishop/Sect Leader. So He would call somebody with any official position, even the highest ranking person possible, a brother. Example, Cardinals refer to each other as brother. But Cardinals also call a lowly fri...
by Stuart
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What did Paul mean by brother(s) of the Lord?
Replies: 63
Views: 24546

Re: What did Paul mean by brother(s) of the Lord?

Brother meant more or less what it means today when ecclesiastical people greet and speak of each other casually rather than by title ("brother Stephen" rather than "minister" or "elder" or "bishop" or some such). A believer of official status, such as a monk, nun, priest, minister, bishop, rector o...
by Stuart
Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A sad notice
Replies: 7
Views: 3634

Re: A sad notice

No words. It is a great loss for the world.
by Stuart
Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: a possibility so remote that it deserves a little reflection
Replies: 129
Views: 37977

Re: a possibility so remote that it deserves a little reflection

We can start with the lack of manuscript evidence as a second point. How many copies of a top secret CIA document or sensitive corporate internal report would you expect to have written? If the Eleusian mysteries had a "guide book" would you expect that text to have had mass distribution? You've go...
by Stuart
Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: a possibility so remote that it deserves a little reflection
Replies: 129
Views: 37977

Re: a possibility so remote that it deserves a little reflection

Ben, Thanks for making my attempt at reducio ad absurdem even more complicated. And I hope people do understand that this is only one of the issues I have with Secret Mark. We can start with the lack of manuscript evidence as a second point. A third point is the introduction of Jesus who shows anger...