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by Steven Avery
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can anyone help me in Luke 23,34?
Replies: 47
Views: 8809

Re: Can anyone help me in Luke 23,34?

There possible additions to that superb chart from David: ====================================== Apocryphal Acts of the Apostles http://books.google.com/books?id=iUQYAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA11 http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/apocryphal_acts_02_john_history.htm "So also Thy dear Son our Lord Jesus the Messia...
by Steven Avery
Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Can anyone help me in Luke 23,34?
Replies: 47
Views: 8809

Re: Can anyone help me in Luke 23,34?

LaParola does a good job. Years back I used to send him corrections, and he would check them and if he felt sound, make the correction. He utilizes a few well-know apparatuses and gives a composite. However, no modern apparatus is very good on the early church writers. My recent study on Acts 8:37 c...
by Steven Avery
Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who axed Acts 8:37?
Replies: 235
Views: 74359

Re: Who axed Acts 8:37?

Omitting a phrase or verse from a textline is easy. Look at 1 John 2:23b as an example. 1 John 2:23 (AV) Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. One of the (many) key weaknesses of textual criticism today is assuming that the...
by Steven Avery
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who axed Acts 8:37?
Replies: 235
Views: 74359

Re: Who axed Acts 8:37?

Hi Ulan, If I remember right, Jerome said he translated the full New Testament. If so, why not simply accept his words? Who else claimed to do the books beyond the Gospels? As for the Oxford NT, how does its count of mss split? Without that info, there is little value in the reference. And I realize...
by Steven Avery
Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who axed Acts 8:37?
Replies: 235
Views: 74359

Re: Who axed Acts 8:37?

Jerome said specifically that the eunuch believed and was baptised, the Old Latin line strongly favors the verse, the Wordsworth mss are split, the mass of the Vulgate mss suport the verse. And the ECW including Irenaeus, Cyprian, Pontius the deacon , Hilary, Pacian, Chromatius, Augustine, the Specu...
by Steven Avery
Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who axed Acts 8:37?
Replies: 235
Views: 74359

Re: Who axed Acts 8:37?

If your goal is to approximate the c. 400 AD Vulgate text, the 11 or so mss that make up the Wordsworh edition might be competitive to the Clementine and other historical Vulgate editions. I don’t know of studies that look at a number or variants or tell you how often the Wordsworth mss. have a majo...
by Steven Avery
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who axed Acts 8:37?
Replies: 235
Views: 74359

Re: Who axed Acts 8:37?

Ahh, understood, thanks.

As for the 1905 Wordsworth Vulgate, that is often a minority Latin text, based on a small number of mss.
by Steven Avery
Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who axed Acts 8:37?
Replies: 235
Views: 74359

Re: Who axed Acts 8:37?

You really have to limit the study to cases where there is a significant difference with the Byzantine Greek reading (which will genrtally be the TR reading.).
by Steven Avery
Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who axed Acts 8:37?
Replies: 235
Views: 74359

Re: Who axed Acts 8:37?

Ben C. Smith wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:02 am
Once you take alternate spellings and nomina sacra for the same word into account, there are more identical verses than that.
As long as you define non-identical as identical, then there are many identicals.:)
by Steven Avery
Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who axed Acts 8:37?
Replies: 235
Views: 74359

Re: Who axed Acts 8:37?

Ben, they are identical on verse 24.

Ulan, Burgon’s analysis of major differences does not leverage on D, and does not include the Vulgate. You should read the section. Then you will be closer to no confusions.