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by Ken Olson
Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus Naked in the Gospel
Replies: 27
Views: 580

Re: Jesus Naked in the Gospel

Why think so small? Mark 11:7 When they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their himations over it, he sat on it. 8 Many people spread their himations on the road, while others spread branches they had cut in the fields. 9 Those who went ahead and those who followed shouted, “Hosanna!” “Blessed is ...
by Ken Olson
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 197
Views: 31643

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

Secret Alias wrote: This hearken back to what follows the scene in the secret gospel - i.e. "And he, casting away his garment, rose, and came to Jesus." It is arguable also that the 'naked form of righteousness' is also a reference to the name of the blind beggar Timaeus = “ritually unclean” and “im...
by Ken Olson
Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 197
Views: 31643

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

It sounds like you understand the words "naked man with naked man" to have stood in the text of Secret Mark and to be part of a Markan motif. Why, in his Letter to Theodore, does Clement say those words are not found in Secret Mark?
by Ken Olson
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 197
Views: 31643

Who Created the Homosexual Reading of Secret Mark?

In this post, I'm going to try to draw together some of the topics discussed in this thread and some of the conclusions I have drawn. (This has been kicking around in my docs file for a while now and I thought I should finish it off and post it). I'm starting with two assumptions which are themselve...
by Ken Olson
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Leon Herrmann's case for the Baptist passage totally interpolated in Josephus
Replies: 11
Views: 524

Re: Leon Herrmann's case for the Baptist passage totally interpolated in Josephus

The μὲν ... δὲ construction distinguishes one party’s activities from those of another. There’s no requirement of a cause and effect relationship between the two, nor that they be in opposition. To use an example that springs readily to my mind, Jesus in the Testimonium Flavianum won over many of th...
by Ken Olson
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Leon Herrmann's case for the Baptist passage totally interpolated in Josephus
Replies: 11
Views: 524

Re: Leon Herrmann's case for the Baptist passage totally interpolated in Josephus

My question is: is not more probable that the last καὶ appearing before the Baptist passage is more connected with the δὲ appearing after the Baptist passage, than the possibility that it is connected with the first δὲ appearing in the Baptist passage ? There’s nothing that requires a δὲ to have an...
by Ken Olson
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation
Replies: 125
Views: 3613

Re: Resource for Mythicist and Response Documentation

Chris Hansen wrote: I don't think it is necessary to burn their books. But if they get cited, they get cited ethically: with full awareness and statements of what they did. In my work on the Testimonium Flavianum , I want to cite Richard Pervo on Gamaliel's speech in Acts. Against Serge Bardet, who ...
by Ken Olson
Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 197
Views: 31643

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

or What George Smiley Taught Me About Secret Mark: Lessons From John Le Carre's Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. A wonderful discussion, Ken. Very thought-provoking. But I am reluctant to take time to wade through 19 pages of the ensuing discussion (esp seeing the tone of the initial responses) so wonder...
by Ken Olson
Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 197
Views: 31643

Epiphanius's direct or indirect use of hegesippus

Ken: Ἦλθεν δὲ εἰς ἡμᾶς ἤδη πως Μαρκελλίνα τις ὑπ' αὐτῶν ἀπατηθεῖσα I think the difference is due to Lawlor/Lightfoot taking Ἦλθεν to mean "she came", meaning Marcellina, while Williams takes it to mean "it came" meaning a tradition about Marcellina. This is possible. Several items give me pause, ho...