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by Ken Olson
Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Justin Martyr, Jewish subtractions from, & Christian additions to scripture.
Replies: 11
Views: 8178

Re: Justin Martyr, Jewish subtractions from, & Christian additions to scripture.

Ben, Have you looked at William Adler, "Jews as Falsifiers" in Translation of Scripture, ed. D. M. Goldberg (Philadelphia: JQRSup, 1990) 3-27? Adler suggests that Justin was working from testimony books rather than complete biblical texts, and also that he had an ulterior motive for what he said abo...
by Ken Olson
Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius as a forger.
Replies: 156
Views: 85710

Re: Eusebius as a forger.

I started a long reply to Ben's last long post a while back, but I realized I was mostly just repeating points I'd already made (though possibly worded better). That gets dreary after a while. So I'm going to put out a new bit of data (excerpted from the long reply) for Pseudo-Hegesippus's knowledge...
by Ken Olson
Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius as a forger.
Replies: 156
Views: 85710

Re: Eusebius as a forger.

Incomplete sentences in my previous post now completed.
by Ken Olson
Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius as a forger.
Replies: 156
Views: 85710

Re: Eusebius as a forger.

Ken: I’m making an argument about intellectual history or the development of Christian historiography. It involves a particular combination of elements, but it’s broader than that. It’s not that, in the course of writing his book, he happens to use Josephus, and also happens to make the argument th...
by Ken Olson
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius as a forger.
Replies: 156
Views: 85710

Re: Eusebius as a forger.

Delayed reply to Ben; split two issues into separate posts. Ken: I think your argument may be a tad overstated here. I do not need to hypothesize any clairvoyance on Eusebius’ part to suggest that he correctly perceived that, though Pilate is first mentioned as Gratus’ successor in 18.35, the materi...
by Ken Olson
Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius as a forger.
Replies: 156
Views: 85710

Re: Eusebius as a forger.

ETA: I could not find an English translation of this Origenic passage, so here is my own rendition of it; the Greek is included, as well as the ancient Latin translation of it. Corrections or improvements welcome: Origen, Commentary on Matthew 17.25a: 25a "At that time the Pharisees went and took c...
by Ken Olson
Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius as a forger.
Replies: 156
Views: 85710

Re: Eusebius as a forger.

Ben: But this completely ignores Pilate's actual introduction earlier in the sequence, at Gratus' exit from the stage. If your argument for an interpolator's decision was supposed to be deduced from your discussion of Josephus' structuring of his section about Pilate, then I suspect that argument f...
by Ken Olson
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius as a forger.
Replies: 156
Views: 85710

Re: Eusebius as a forger.

[ What is the earliest known (and noncontroversial) instance of this combination of assertions (namely, that Josephus knew Jesus was the Christ but still remained in a state of unbelief)? Would Sozomen (Eccl. Hist. 1.1, c.445 ) qualify? Josephus, the son of Matthias, also who was a priest, and was ...
by Ken Olson
Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius as a forger.
Replies: 156
Views: 85710

Re: Eusebius as a forger.

Tangentially related digression: I was looking at Rev. Samuel Lee's 1843 translation of Eusebius' Theophany, on Roger Pearse's site: http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/eusebius_theophania_06book5.htm Lee's footnote 88, on the Testimonium Flavianum, is relevant to the previous discussion of the recept...
by Ken Olson
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Eusebius as a forger.
Replies: 156
Views: 85710

Re: Eusebius as a forger.

My main concern with this whole approach of finding Eusebian themes in pseudo-Hegesippus is that, when I once did that with Luke 24, the Testimonium Taciteum, and the Testimonium Flavianum, you were able to show other passages (such as in Justin Martyr) which evinced similar collocations of themes....