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by John2
Sat May 25, 2019 11:20 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Judas Iscariot
Replies: 43
Views: 14369

Re: Judas Iscariot

… gMark might have been commissioned/sponsored by the Flavian court, to be used as propaganda that would rebut Jewish zealotry with the story of their true messiah, a peaceful and holy tax-payer. This is where I disagree with your conclusion about the meaning of Mark. First, I think it is entirely ...
by John2
Fri May 24, 2019 5:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Judas Iscariot
Replies: 43
Views: 14369

Re: Judas Iscariot

Irish1975 wrote: I noticed how completely Josephus pins the blame for 70 AD and everything before it on Judas the Galilean. Well, sure, but just to be nitpicky (and not to single you out), he says that the Fourth Philosophy was founded by two people, Judas and someone named Zadok: Yet was there one ...
by John2
Thu May 23, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction
Replies: 73
Views: 3929

Re: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction

Doudna writes (in the citation above): But such talk of a few good ones (remnant) and in the end everyone will be saved (pie in the sky) of a doomed people in the present age is rhetoric. Agrippa II and Josephus, who were with Titus, similarly no doubt wept at the divine justice of Roman wrath on th...
by John2
Wed May 22, 2019 2:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction
Replies: 73
Views: 3929

Re: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction

First, I have to say that Ben's responses above are very well (and politely) put. What a treat. All I care to say is in response to question 4 (which Ben did not address): 4) Why does Paul characterize his missionary activity as proceeding from Jerusalem? Galatians! I think it's one thing for Paul t...
by John2
Tue May 21, 2019 6:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction
Replies: 73
Views: 3929

Re: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction

"...with the exception of Clement of Alexandria and Origen, there is no evidence that any ante-Nicene father quoted from [Romans] 15 and 16..." W.H. Ryder, "The Authorship of Romans XV, XVI" Journal of Biblical Literature (1898), p. 186 So other than the evidence of Clement of Alexandria and Origen...
by John2
Tue May 21, 2019 6:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction
Replies: 73
Views: 3929

Re: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction

"...with the exception of Clement of Alexandria and Origen, there is no evidence that any ante-Nicene father quoted from [Romans] 15 and 16..." W.H. Ryder, "The Authorship of Romans XV, XVI" Journal of Biblical Literature (1898), p. 186 So other than the evidence of Clement of Alexandria and Origen...
by John2
Mon May 20, 2019 7:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction
Replies: 73
Views: 3929

Re: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction

"...with the exception of Clement of Alexandria and Origen, there is no evidence that any ante-Nicene father quoted from [Romans] 15 and 16..." W.H. Ryder, "The Authorship of Romans XV, XVI" Journal of Biblical Literature (1898), p. 186 So other than the evidence of Clement of Alexandria and Origen...
by John2
Mon May 20, 2019 7:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction
Replies: 73
Views: 3929

Re: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction

Das surveys these issues you mention that pertain to Romans in Solving the Romans Debate and makes what seems like a reasonable conclusion on pg. 14-16: I don't know anything about this author, but his logic is far less compelling than his rhetoric (highlighted below)-- While the Roman letter circu...
by John2
Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction
Replies: 73
Views: 3929

Re: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction

According to Romans 15 Paul is planning to visit Jerusalem and provide financial aid to the Christians at Jerusalem. This seems unlikely in the post 70 CE period. Andrew Criddle Jason BeDuhn cites Origen (Romans commentary 10.43.2) and Tertullian (Marc. 5.14.14) in favor of "the consensus opinion t...
by John2
Sat May 18, 2019 11:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction
Replies: 73
Views: 3929

Re: Romans 9-11 & the temple's destruction

The only difference I can see between what Paul says in Rom. 9-11 and what the Damascus Document says is that Paul throws in his spin on the OT to promote his Torah-free gospel while the Damascus Document is pro-Torah observance. Otherwise they both talk about the wrath of God and destruction and a ...