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- Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:35 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Theudas
- Replies: 3
- Views: 494
Re: Theudas
Another indication for me that Christians were Fourth Philosophers is Jesus' attitude towards Fourth Philosophers and their attitude towards him. Josephus notes that some Fourth Philosophers had "deceived and deluded the people under pretense of divine inspiration," and as Jesus says in Mk. 13:5-6, ...
- Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:46 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Theudas
- Replies: 3
- Views: 494
Re: Theudas
One of the indications for me that Christians were Fourth Philosophers is that both groups subscribed to what Josephus calls "Pharisaic notions," with the most distinctive "notions" being belief in the resurrection of the dead and angels. These "notions," of course, form the core of Christianity, as...
- Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:10 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Theudas
- Replies: 3
- Views: 494
Re: Theudas
I've always had the impression that Theudas was a "violent revolutionary," but as I take another look at what Josephus says about him, nothing appears to indicate that other than the allusion to Joshua, but even then all he did was take people to the Jordan to watch him try to divide it and pass thr...
- Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:45 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Theudas
- Replies: 3
- Views: 494
Theudas
Being someone who thinks that Jesus was a Fourth Philosopher (or at least that the literary figure called Jesus walks and talks like one), Theudas seems like a suitable parallel to me. I can imagine that if followers of Theudas had survived and flourished after 70 CE and wrote things about him, thei...
- Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:57 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: "Esteemed pillars" vis a vis "men from James": Re-imagining the context for the way Paul spoke to Peter "to his face."
- Replies: 20
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Re: "Esteemed pillars" vis a vis "men from James": Re-imagining the context for the way Paul spoke to Peter "to his face
Victorinus discusses Galatians 2:3-4 here, but I'm not getting the impression that it is based on a variant of 2:3 but rather only of 2:4 (the one that says "yielded" instead of "did not yield," as you've noted). But he goes on to say: Some read the last phrase as follows: not even for an hour did w...
- Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:41 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: "Esteemed pillars" vis a vis "men from James": Re-imagining the context for the way Paul spoke to Peter "to his face."
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4576
Re: "Esteemed pillars" vis a vis "men from James": Re-imagining the context for the way Paul spoke to Peter "to his face
While I'm fine with either reading of "yield" or "did not yield" (and even lean towards "yield" since it fits with Acts and 1 Cor. 9:20), I'm having trouble fitting it with what Paul says in Gal. 2:3: Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek. ...
- Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:21 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: "Esteemed pillars" vis a vis "men from James": Re-imagining the context for the way Paul spoke to Peter "to his face."
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4576
Re: "Esteemed pillars" vis a vis "men from James": Re-imagining the context for the way Paul spoke to Peter "to his face
While I'm fine with either reading of "yield" or "did not yield" (and even lean towards "yield" since it fits with Acts and 1 Cor. 9:20), I'm having trouble fitting it with what Paul says in Gal. 2:3: Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek. W...
- Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:48 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Who is Luke?
- Replies: 44
- Views: 14460
Re: Who is Luke?
That's what Cadbury says, as I already noted upthread.
- Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:40 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Did Papias exist?
- Replies: 79
- Views: 16023
Re: Did Papias exist?
You have to trust Eusebius in order to be able to substantiate your POV even partially. Yes, and since his citations of extant sources are fairly accurate, why should we assume that his lost sources just so happen to be made up (particularly if some sense can be made of them)? According to the Anti...
- Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:24 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Who is Luke?
- Replies: 44
- Views: 14460
Re: Who is Luke?
I asked you "When was there a "circle" around Luke ? You failed to answer. I didn't say the circle was "around" Luke, but according to Philemon he and the other people mentioned along with him belonged to the same social circle, that of being Christians in close association with Paul. By the way th...