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by John2
Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?
Replies: 80
Views: 21033

Re: Matthew's gospel first written in Hebrew?

You have very dogmatic beliefs. John2 allows you to experiment. Mazel Tov! I thought I was "Bob." What happened to that ? I would prefer to be "Nehemia" though (as in Gordon). I once had trouble understanding the meaning of Lev. 19:27 and he makes a great case that it is about not shaving in mourni...
by John2
Fri May 22, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 196
Views: 30082

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

No. My point is: No divorce. vs. No divorce with an asterisk. Anyone with objectivity thinks the former is more original. The Christian are right on this one. Divorce came about through Moses making up shit. What God brought together no one should be able to break apart. And Steve if you actually c...
by John2
Thu May 21, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 196
Views: 30082

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

You can't even read. No point. I understand that a distinction is made between commandments that come from God and commandments that come from Moses, but I don't think Jesus makes it. To go back to the first example I gave from Mk. 7:3-13, not only would Jesus be a hypocrite if he were to nullify a...
by John2
Wed May 20, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 196
Views: 30082

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

No. My point is: No divorce. vs. No divorce with an asterisk. Anyone with objectivity thinks the former is more original. The Christian are right on this one. Divorce came about through Moses making up shit. What God brought together no one should be able to break apart. And Steve if you actually c...
by John2
Wed May 20, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 196
Views: 30082

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

So Matthew's asterisk is earlier than Luke's no asterisk? Asterisks always come later like- I love you but ... inevitably develops after a long period of I fucking love you to death. Very hard to go from i love you but ... to I love you period. The asterisk is an afterthought I need to set paramete...
by John2
Mon May 18, 2020 9:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 196
Views: 30082

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

Why does it make more sense to you that Jesus had an asterisk beside his judgment on divorce? It is because of your presuppositions about Jewish Christianity. Did he have an asterisk beside his opinions on sacrifices? Lending at interest? Lust? Pointless asking you to think rationally. You have an ...
by John2
Sat May 16, 2020 6:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 196
Views: 30082

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

Secret Alias wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 5:35 pm
I don't think you understand the concept here. Your citation of Deuteronomy was not from heaven (according to the sectarians). From Moses not God.

But like his citation of Ex. 21:17/Lev. 20:9 in Mk. 7:10, it shows that Jesus taught about observing more than just the Ten Commandments.
by John2
Sat May 16, 2020 5:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 196
Views: 30082

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

Steve I think this discussion belongs in a separate thread. That would be fine with me. You brought it up here though after my comments about the subject of this thread so I was responding to you: But there is nothing in the 10 commandments. Christian attitudes tend to be shaped by the differences ...
by John2
Sat May 16, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 196
Views: 30082

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

But certain arguments - like the teaching on divorce - reflect an anti-Mosaic perspective. In Matthew Jesus forbids divorce except for sexual immorality, which I think is a fair interpretation of ervat davar in Dt. 24:1. Mt. 5:31-32 and 19:9: “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must gi...
by John2
Sat May 16, 2020 12:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger
Replies: 196
Views: 30082

Re: Tinker Tailor Soldier Forger

Secret Alias wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 12:05 pm
But you're denying ancient sources not me just to make clear.

I'm denying that Jesus promotes a Ten Commandments-only Torah in the synoptic gospels.