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by John2
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: General Religious Discussion
Topic: Grateful Dead
Replies: 110
Views: 156186

Re: Grateful Dead

Wow! I've got a good feeling about this one too (12/4/90) just from the opening Jack Straw. I haven't really explored late 1990 much before (in a new post-Brent Mydland era with Bruce Hornsby on piano), and this seems like a great place to start. https://archive.org/details/gd1990-12-04.143517.Ultra...
by John2
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Epiphanius on the Ebionites
Replies: 362
Views: 41309

Re: Epiphanius on the Ebionites

But to get back to the main topic, I don't think we even need Epiphanius to know that there were two factions of Jewish Christians (at least during the first century CE), since it seems clear enough from Acts (which I date c. 95 CE) and Peter and Paul's letters (which I date pre-70 CE). Just like fo...
by John2
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Epiphanius on the Ebionites
Replies: 362
Views: 41309

Re: Epiphanius on the Ebionites

And no, I don't expect you to give me a "detailed list" of Pharisees and Sadducees who killed each other over doctrinal disputes. I would just like to see one good example, since the two you have given me do not suffice.
by John2
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Epiphanius on the Ebionites
Replies: 362
Views: 41309

Re: Epiphanius on the Ebionites

I can't say I've ever thought about what sect Justus of Tiberius belonged to before, and that is an interesting question. And as I look at what Photius and Josephus say about him, I'm getting the impression that he was a Fourth Philosopher, and from Josephus' perspective, a rival one, since he had j...
by John2
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Epiphanius on the Ebionites
Replies: 362
Views: 41309

Re: Epiphanius on the Ebionites

Justus of Tiberias has to be a Sadducee. What other examples do you expect from someone trying to pretend he wasn't a religious zealot sworn to "separate" Jews from Hellinism? You expect a detailed list? Dense. I'm working on that one. I just saw it. One thing at a time. I'm going to sort through t...
by John2
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Epiphanius on the Ebionites
Replies: 362
Views: 41309

Re: Epiphanius on the Ebionites

However you want to label it, Josephus says it was a one-time act for treason and not for doctrinal disputes. When it's done and over, Lord, a man is just a man. :banghead: you really are dense. So your one example thus far that the Sadducees and Pharisees were "at each others throats" (literally i...
by John2
Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Epiphanius on the Ebionites
Replies: 362
Views: 41309

Re: Epiphanius on the Ebionites

Regarding Schiffman's theory (I like him too and have cited him on this thread regarding another matter), I could only recall that he thinks 4QMMT is Sadducaic, but after taking a fresh look at what I could find online (a long citation from his Reclaiming the Dead Sea Scrolls here: http://cojs.org/t...
by John2
Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Epiphanius on the Ebionites
Replies: 362
Views: 41309

Re: Epiphanius on the Ebionites

And then you have to look at the portrait in Life of Marcus Agrippa establishing ornate synagogues in Tiberias and elsewhere. This must have been supported by a Jewish party. Clearly not the Pharisees. And the reaction of Josephus's partisans - destruction of the images, robbery, the stealing of th...
by John2
Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Epiphanius on the Ebionites
Replies: 362
Views: 41309

Re: Epiphanius on the Ebionites

Secret Alias wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:01 pm
Like there is a sharp distinction between civil war and religious war. Ireland, Iraq, Yemen, Palestine, Lebanon. Give me a break.

However you want to label it, Josephus says it was a one-time act for treason and not for doctrinal disputes.
by John2
Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Epiphanius on the Ebionites
Replies: 362
Views: 41309

Re: Epiphanius on the Ebionites

Come on. What value are these confessions? You need to read more points of view (and as Eisenmann you are likely only playing dumb). Shaye Cohen has gotten to the root of the problem with the identification of an Aramaic hypomnema at the core of Life and War. There are layers upon layers in each of...