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by Aleph One
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 Not Authentic Say Cambridge Scholars
Replies: 29
Views: 4884

Re: 1 Corinthians 14:34, 35 Not Authentic Say Cambridge Scholars

To Ben and Stuart: Is your discussion here tangential to the specific paper mentioned in the link? I'm not in a great position to judge its merits but it sounds to me like the case for the offending verse to be "disputed" from the earliest witness is really strong, especially relative to the amount ...
by Aleph One
Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who'sonfirst? GMark As Separationist
Replies: 11
Views: 6064

Re: Who'sonfirst? GMark As Separationist

I think this is good info too. I realize I was sometimes assuming or meaning separationist when saying adoptionist (by this definition) in my thread about GMark and the empty tomb. My question should have been, "Why would a seperationalist Mark need Christ to reclaim Jesus's body from the tomb?"
by Aleph One
Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:47 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 14014

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Another reading of John 's account of Mary meeting the risen Jesus is that the author is realistically depicting clinical shock. During a weekend of severe psychological trauma, Mary becomes fixated on the idea that the missing corpse has been moved. When Jesus comes along, she sees him as a functi...
by Aleph One
Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 14014

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

So I was looking through all the NT post-resurrection appearances of Jesus to see which ones they recognized him in immediately, and which ones he had some other form. My purpose was just to look into the idea that if Jesus was going to appear to everyone as a stranger anyway, then there's even less...
by Aleph One
Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 14014

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Thanks very much to everyone who replied. There's definitely some stuff to chew on here. I'm going to check out the links to the papers from Ben and some of the other recommended material and see what jumps out at me.
by Aleph One
Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 14014

Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Hey everyone I just had a general question that occured to me. I agree with a lot of scholars that GMark has an Adoptionist christology, i.e. Jesus is a normal man who is possessed by the spirit of christ at his baptism. This got me thinking about the scene of the spirit departing his body at the mo...
by Aleph One
Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Inventory of references to Simon/Symeon, Peter, and Cephas.
Replies: 36
Views: 5627

Re: Inventory of references to Simon/Symeon, Peter, and Ceph

Now, I know that this involves some speculation as to motives. But it is speculation in search of a reason for the two triumvirates. I wish I could dismiss the correspondence of names (Peter, James, John // Cephas, James, John, where Cephas is only a fraction of a phoneme away from being a good bac...
by Aleph One
Fri May 26, 2017 6:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).
Replies: 79
Views: 18510

Re: The ending of Mark (for Kunigunde).

Not much to add here, unfortunately, but I found a lot of interesting points in this post. There is much to be thought about, however, regarding Joe's suggestion that the ending contained something scandalous; in that case it could either have been removed deliberately or lost accidentally, with no ...
by Aleph One
Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:03 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dating Paul's Conversion c.36 C.E.
Replies: 221
Views: 25350

Re: Dating Paul's Conversion c.36 C.E.

Evidence you keep asking for, is the Koine ONLY text we possess. had Israelites wrote any part of the NT we would have not only an Israelite origin of the text, but we would also have Aramaic text. There is a reason why we do not. Hey I'm currently reading Mazzaferri's "The Genre of the Book of Rev...
by Aleph One
Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The temple saying & traditions before Mark.
Replies: 176
Views: 24898

Re: The temple saying & traditions before Mark.

There is some great discussion in this thread about an interesting topic, especially early in the postings. I do feel like it got side-tracked part way through, though. The issue with Daniel and the dates looks like an "agree to disagree" situation to me, at this point. :( This was the Achilles heel...