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by junego
Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 142614

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

No matter what form of euhemerism you use/believe/theorize about, euhemerization (in modern scholarly papers/books that I found) just means that someone has created a FICTIONAL story about a MYTHICAL entity/event that places the MYTHICAL entity/event in a HISTORICAL setting (for which there is no c...
by junego
Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 142614

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

Carrier writes (my underlining and bolding below): Euhemerism is mentioned in all major encyclopedias I know. Euhemerization is even in standard dictionaries like Merriam-Webster: to euhemerize is “to interpret (mythology) on the theory of euhemerism,” and the theory of euhemerism is: "[The] a...
by junego
Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?
Replies: 175
Views: 142614

Re: Gospels as "euhemerized" stories about Jesus?

[snip] All you have done with the above is cite articles by people using (or misusing..) euhemerism. This approach in these articles would be better labelled 'reverse euhemerism'. Something that Carrier should have considered using and thus avoiding criticism of his usage of the concept of euhemeri...
by junego
Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:48 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Memory theory and HJ (re)construction
Replies: 56
Views: 43920

Re: Memory theory and HJ (re)construction

Here's link to a pdf of a recent article by Dr. Zeba Crook titled "Matthew, memory theory and the New No Quest" published 11/20/14 in HTS Teologiese Studies/Theological Studies , 70(1), Art. #2716. http://www.hts.org.za/index.php/HTS/article/view/2716/5202. (warning takes you to download o...
by junego
Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Carrier vs. Rent-an-Apologist on Historicity of Jesus
Replies: 46
Views: 31355

Re: Carrier vs. Rent-an-Apologist on Historicity of Jesus

I see Carrier's name pop up all the time on thread titles here. On the internet he has a well-oiled publicity machine. Took some time to look at a bio. I see where he is an atheist and a metaphysical naturalist. Now, I sort of know what an atheist is, but what the heck is a metaphysical naturalist?...
by junego
Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 181031

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

most biblical scholars and classical historians see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted Would be so much better if they would show what they "see." If you've read the literature, though, you know this is circular. How do we know? Because it's agreed. Why do we agree? ...
by junego
Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’
Replies: 425
Views: 181031

Re: Weighing up the evidence for the ‘Historical Jesus’

LOL - I just wrote a summarised paragraph addressing the statement that "Paul only describes a heavenly Jesus" by quoting verses by Paul that I think point to the contrary. This is how one addresses the arguments . But no, to you I'm "not addressing the arguments". Ridiculous. I...
by junego
Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Rank, Raglan, Freud, a Texas Sharpshooter, and Jesus
Replies: 126
Views: 119361

Re: Rank, Raglan, Freud, a Texas Sharpshooter, and Jesus

And here's the link to Neil's blog post: http://vridar.org/2014/12/17/transvalued-folktales-and-myth-classifying-the-bibles-narratives/ Interesting as always, Neil. I have not yet posted the following on my blog but will later. Meanwhile, I leave it here because I believe it is a propos to the OP an...
by junego
Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bayesian Historicity
Replies: 57
Views: 35874

Re: Bayesian Historicity

In Hitler Homer Bible Christ Carrier gives his Bayesian analysis of why he thinks the Tacitus quote about Nero's persecution of Christians is most likely redacted/interpolated for his article "The Prospect of a Christian Interpolation in Tacitus' Annals ". The publisher, Vigiliae Christia...
by junego
Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Bayesian Historicity
Replies: 57
Views: 35874

Re: Bayesian Historicity

a) Does the 75% chance of interpolation translate as a 25% chance of being genuine? Please don't put too much weight on my use of the word "genuine". I was using it as a synonym for "authentic". I'd say all the above means is that there is a 25% chance that the TT is not a inter...