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by StephenGoranson
Fri May 10, 2024 1:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Rome and early Christianity
Replies: 0
Views: 13

Rome and early Christianity

Various posts here propose that Rome invented Christianity. I won't attempt a summary version of those various proposals because they do not, even remotely, agree with one another. Roman religion, early on, seems largely a warmed-over Greek religion, with new names. (Maybe with Etruscan and other in...
by StephenGoranson
Fri May 10, 2024 10:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Last nail on the Testimonium Flavianum. Again.
Replies: 1
Views: 54

Re: Last nail on the Testimonium Flavianum. Again.

Last nail...Again? No more "last nails" to come?
by StephenGoranson
Fri May 10, 2024 8:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 44
Views: 1945

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

The Smith-Scholem Correspondence book is interesting, concerning Mark, concerning Sabbatai Sevi,
and concerning paleography.
Smith p. 23 wrote to Scholem that he (Smith)
"shall have in any case to begin learning something about palaeography."
Letter date:
January, 6, 1950.
by StephenGoranson
Thu May 09, 2024 11:41 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: on Pharisees, zoom
Replies: 0
Views: 68

on Pharisees, zoom

We are pleased to invite you to the upcoming Orion Center Greenfield Scholars’ Seminar: “Being Fair to the Pharisees: Beyond Negative or Positive Stereotypes” Prof. Joseph Sievers Pontifical Biblical Institute, Rome Studium Biblicum Franciscanum, Jerusalem Chair: Prof. Prof. Daniel R. Schwartz Depar...
by StephenGoranson
Wed May 08, 2024 1:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John of Damascus, Mar Saba, no mention of "Secret Mark"
Replies: 0
Views: 96

John of Damascus, Mar Saba, no mention of "Secret Mark"

John of Damascus, who was at Mar Saba from circa 715 to 750, wrote about heresies, many of those previously included in Epiphanius, Panarion, including Carpocratians, plus some newer ones. Carpocrates he called an Asiatic. No mention of Alexandria. No mention of "Secret Mark." For Smith's ...
by StephenGoranson
Wed May 08, 2024 7:26 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 44
Views: 1945

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

Clarification and correction. Above in this thread, Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:17 pm, I wrote: ""MS got early liturgy wrong." Wrong for what fit Clement in Egypt. This, supported from, iirc, Robin Jenson (a Columbia grad, I think), and Peter Jeffrey, an early liturgy specialist, and a colleag...
by StephenGoranson
Tue May 07, 2024 5:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Proposition: There are Three Major Classes of Christian Literature
Replies: 43
Views: 12568

Re: Proposition: There are Three Major Classes of Christian Literature

LC previously wrote, Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:49 pm, in part: "...how are we supposed to start looking at the historical evidence? It looks like a mess. Unless you have some better ideas I'm just trying to tidy it up a little." I suggest the "implications" of "assumptions" ab...
by StephenGoranson
Sun May 05, 2024 3:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Sabar's New Morton Smith Article
Replies: 117
Views: 3139

Re: Sabar's New Morton Smith Article

Well, that's a "strong opinion."
by StephenGoranson
Sat May 04, 2024 6:51 am
Forum: Jewish Texts and History
Topic: Niels Lemche, "272 BCE – A Terminus a Quo"
Replies: 4
Views: 473

Re: Niels Lemche, "272 BCE – A Terminus a Quo"

There appears to be a general trend of dating some Qumran mss earlier than previous estimates and date ranges, as I wrote before. One recent example, in this subforum: Palaeo-Hebrew: a new advance by StephenGoranson » Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:03 am, and M. Langlois on paleo-Hebrew paleography of several m...