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by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:28 pm
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Philodemus, new text on Plato?
Replies: 0
Views: 10

Philodemus, new text on Plato?

Texts of Plato and Aristotle have been relatively well transmitted. But a reported recently-read text from Herculaneum may give more information on Plato, though I am not qualified to certify it, nor the opinion expressed by Philodemus. "More sections of Philodemus’ history of the philosophers ...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 6
Views: 161

Re: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"

Singular or plural? Here is Smith's translation from Secret Gospel (1973) page 17: "....But "naked [man] with naked [man]" and the other things about which you wrote are not found." In the Clement book (1973) page 447: "...But "naked man with naked man," ..." ...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1715 Clement edition
Replies: 33
Views: 596

Re: 1715 Clement edition

Mar Saba had books and manuscripts long, long before 1887, when "multiple ones"--which may mean duplicate copies--were sent. (added: sent from Jerusalem to Mar Saba.) I don't endorse your presuming vis-a-vis me. Smith's announced reason for going there in 1958 was to catalog books. (added:...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?
Replies: 6
Views: 154

Re: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?

I thought the "joke" was better known. That's why I didn't write it out it full, at first. Anyway, it's easily googleable. I brought it up in part as an example of his "humor," as I already said. One, could, if interested, see when it became well known. Post 1941, so revisionist,...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?
Replies: 6
Views: 154

Re: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?

That was Morton Smith's joke, not mine.
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 42
Views: 794

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

De gustibus non est disputandum,
though I am not the only one to notice that manufactured (in 1958 context) and Score later
comport with Morton's long-displayed sense of humor.
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Let's help biblical scholars - Paul's letters
Replies: 27
Views: 625

Re: Let's help biblical scholars - Paul's letters

JarekS, you have proposed that the NT, or most of it, was "content" produced by one source.

Could you further specify that proposed source?
When?
Where?
Why does it appear to many people, of various backgrounds, that there were differing views, not a unified one?
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 42
Views: 794

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

Here's the full title of Smith's Harvard Theological Review article "CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA AND SECRET MARK: THE SCORE AT THE END OF THE FIRST DECADE." HTR 75:4 (1982) 449-61. In context, the word "Score" is an unusual, provocative, choice. As for "Manufactured in the United ...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?
Replies: 6
Views: 154

Re: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?

Well, Randy. Stephen here, not Stephan. If you had read the book, you would know that Smith did not go to vespers with his chaperone, who was not his buddy; he did not go at all in 1958, his disdain for it made abundantly clear. And that Smith didn't just get less religious but turned from exceeding...
by StephenGoranson
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?
Replies: 6
Views: 154

Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?

Here is one case, all from his 1973 book, The Secret Gospel. On page 6 MS recounted his 1941 visit to Mar Saba. He described the liturgy, which he attended, as "hypnotic." "I knew what was happening, but I relaxed and enjoyed it." (In what other context have heard that phrase?) O...