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by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1715 Clement edition
Replies: 35
Views: 681

Re: 1715 Clement edition

Thank you, Adam.
As to the suggestion that MS intended to publish that 1958 "Manufactured" document,
which was never published in that form till his death, nor now,
according to its Preface, it was to prevent others from publishing.
by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:06 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did John know Mark?
Replies: 3
Views: 59

Did John know Mark?

Did John know Mark? Morton Smith, for what it's worth, in his unpublished 1960 text, claimed that "Secret Mark" was "shaped by deliberate imitation of canonical Mk." [[hm., by whom? and not Secret Mark first, then censored]] "but based in part on an earlier Aramaic gospel of...
by StephenGoranson
Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence for different forgeries may vary
Replies: 0
Views: 33

Evidence for different forgeries may vary

Given: there are many different views on "Letter to Theodore." In this case we have photos of three pages, transcriptions, translations, and a huge secondary literature. We also have much by and about Morton Smith. Among others, Ariel Sabar in The Atlantic (magazine), April, 2024. Some thi...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:28 pm
Forum: Classical Texts and History
Topic: Philodemus, new text on Plato?
Replies: 0
Views: 48

Philodemus, new text on Plato?

Texts of Plato and Aristotle have been relatively well transmitted. But a reported recently-read text from Herculaneum may give more information on Plato, though I am not qualified to certify it, nor the opinion expressed by Philodemus. "More sections of Philodemus’ history of the philosophers ...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 6
Views: 186

Re: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"

Singular or plural? Here is Smith's translation from Secret Gospel (1973) page 17: "....But "naked [man] with naked [man]" and the other things about which you wrote are not found." In the Clement book (1973) page 447: "...But "naked man with naked man," ..." ...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:05 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1715 Clement edition
Replies: 35
Views: 681

Re: 1715 Clement edition

Mar Saba had books and manuscripts long, long before 1887, when "multiple ones"--which may mean duplicate copies--were sent. (added: sent from Jerusalem to Mar Saba.) I don't endorse your presuming vis-a-vis me. Smith's announced reason for going there in 1958 was to catalog books. (added:...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?
Replies: 6
Views: 180

Re: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?

I thought the "joke" was better known. That's why I didn't write it out it full, at first. Anyway, it's easily googleable. I brought it up in part as an example of his "humor," as I already said. One, could, if interested, see when it became well known. Post 1941, so revisionist,...
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:48 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?
Replies: 6
Views: 180

Re: Was Morton Smith sometimes an unreliable narrator?

That was Morton Smith's joke, not mine.
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 42
Views: 852

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

De gustibus non est disputandum,
though I am not the only one to notice that manufactured (in 1958 context) and Score later
comport with Morton's long-displayed sense of humor.
by StephenGoranson
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Let's help biblical scholars - Paul's letters
Replies: 28
Views: 712

Re: Let's help biblical scholars - Paul's letters

JarekS, you have proposed that the NT, or most of it, was "content" produced by one source.

Could you further specify that proposed source?
When?
Where?
Why does it appear to many people, of various backgrounds, that there were differing views, not a unified one?