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by Ben C. Smith
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Comparing gMark with 'other' history writings of the time?
Replies: 9
Views: 187

Re: Comparing gMark with 'other' history writings of the time?

Oh that is just an excellent link, Ben! Top quality description of what I have tried to describe here in narrative-critical terms as 'covert narrator' and great analysis right there. As for my question: It seems like there really are no examples of history writing at the time with such an 'invicibl...
by Ben C. Smith
Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:46 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Comparing gMark with 'other' history writings of the time?
Replies: 9
Views: 187

Re: Comparing gMark with 'other' history writings of the time?

I've argued that gMark was intended to be understood as an account of historical events. And as such, it is legitimate to compare gMark to other known history works of the time. What I'm most interested in is the 'narrator' of such other works. Because one thing that characterizes gMark is the anon...
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 12
Views: 250

Re: Philip

This webpage cites "St. Hippolytus' account of the Twelve Apostles and how they died, and his list of the Seventy apostles" ( but which seems to have two Philips ).... Well, remember that Acts distinguishes between two Philips: one being the apostle, the other merely an evangelist. For my money, th...
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philip
Replies: 12
Views: 250

Re: Philip

John2 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:48 pm
And I wouldn't mind taking a closer look at the extra-biblical references to the daughters of Philip.
I have a list here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3822.
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 2653

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

Nice links, Ben. It makes me speculate that perhaps the arrival of gJohn on the scene is precisely that thing which motivated Luke to write his gospel? I have not decided whether Luke knew John itself, the Asiatic traditions behind John, or some earlier edition of John. At least some of the items o...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fictional Jesus Synthesis
Replies: 115
Views: 5211

Re: Fictional Jesus Synthesis

Secret Alias wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:26 pm
If the search engine worked over at the archive look up "aa5874." He was legendary. The Michael Jordan of crazy.
I used to plug in four random digits or even underscores ("aa____") because I could not remember "5874" (and am still merely taking it on faith that those are the correct ones).
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 2653

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

I also think there are clear indications that Luke knew gJohn or some version of it. And I think the reason Luke says that his written account establishes the "certainty" of the things Theophilus has been taught, is because Luke himself has "attended to everything minutely from the top" and so want...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Identities Verification.
Replies: 3
Views: 294

Re: Identities Verification.

There ya go. :D

"This is my sister Mary, and this is my other sister Mary."
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Tertullian Says Marcion Had Access to All Four Gospels But 'Beat Up' Luke
Replies: 32
Views: 1842

Re: Tertullian Says Marcion Had Access to All Four Gospels But 'Beat Up' Luke

Jason Beduhn and Matthias Klinghardt both presently propose that 'Marcion's Gospel' preceded both Marcion and Luke and was, in fact, the earliest Gospel written . .... BeDuhn also thinks that the Two-Source hypothesis may be correct, once Luke is replaced in the equation with the Marcionite Gospel ...
by Ben C. Smith
Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Identities Verification.
Replies: 3
Views: 294

Re: Identities Verification.

Trees of Life wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:43 pm
Virgin Mary:
Mary was the firstborn daughter of Joachim and Anna. ....

Mary of Clopas:
Mary was the second born daughter of Joachim and Anna. ....
Mary and her sister Mary. Sounds great. :thumbup: