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by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 839

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

It's a false distinction because it says that Jews and Christians only looked to the Old Testament, when they were surrounded by other cults and religions with similar traits to theirs. Why bother hunting for obscure passages that don't even apply to Jesus to begin with? No, that is not my view at ...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 839

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

The three most direct parallels, the three for which you gave quotes from the gospels to match, all come from the gospel of John, and I am actually quite open to that gospel having added details from pagan ritual. What I am saying is that the death and resurrection of Jesus as a concept, as a "thin...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 839

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

The three most direct parallels, the three for which you gave quotes from the gospels to match, all come from the gospel of John, and I am actually quite open to that gospel having added details from pagan ritual. What I am saying is that the death and resurrection of Jesus as a concept, as a "thing...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question for Ben
Replies: 4
Views: 141

Re: Question for Ben

No problem.
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question for Ben
Replies: 4
Views: 141

Re: Question for Ben

Ἰωάζαρος/Ἰωάζαρ = יוֹעֶזֶר = Joazar(us).
Ἰάϊρος/Ἰαϊρ = יָאִיר = Jair(us).

There is no etymological connection. You can judge from your own comfort level how close the names are for punning or confusion or such: YW'ZR versus YAYR.
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 839

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

Well, there's no text that I know of that says succinctly "Osiris was dead three days and three nights". Even in regards to Jesus, which makes mentions specifically to three days, was not himself dead for three days. Three days is just an all around average. With Osiris it's a rounding down, and fo...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 839

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

Is it a matter of language games? I guess that's one way of looking at it. After all, I remember reading about a dispute in the Talmud as to what year Jubilee fell on, the 49th year or the following year? And this question extends to Jesus. Do you count each day or do you count the hours? Well, wit...
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:01 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 839

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

Secret Alias wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:39 pm
Lazarus = Eleazar. A better case can be made.
I have explored that possibility a bit: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2575.
by Ben C. Smith
Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?
Replies: 41
Views: 839

Re: Was the resurrection of Jesus similar to Lazarus's resurrection ?

Of course if you want to be technical, Osiris could not have been resurrected before 72 days, as it was the time it took to be mummified. But there are indeed sources, textual, and ritual, that do indicate a period of four days, from the day of his death to the day of his resurrection. I guess what...
by Ben C. Smith
Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Evidence that Irenaeus knows the meaning of Barabbas ("Son of Father")
Replies: 110
Views: 1896

Re: Evidence that Irenaeus knows the meaning of Barabbas ("Son of Father")

OOOOoooommmm I summon the great Ben. Can you confirm to us mortals that Giuseppe is correct? My blood I give as tribute. Please show us the way. OOOOoooommmm Sorry, you may have to be more specific. The forum has improved greatly from my viewpoint since implementing my current policy : Foe.png From...