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by Ben C. Smith
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is there a Relationship Between Papias's Discussion of Mark's Gospel and the First Book of Against Heresies?
Replies: 63
Views: 597

Re: Is there a Relationship Between Papias's Discussion of Mark's Gospel and the First Book of Against Heresies?

What links Tertullian's Gaius to Gaius of Rome 1. Gaius in hac carne barbatus et in hac anima severus maritus pater avus proavus (= πάππας = pope) 2. Photius ἐπὶ Οὐΐκτορος καὶ Ζεφυρίνου τῶν ἀρχιερέων, χειροτονηθῆναι δὲ αὐτὸν καὶ ἐθνῶν ἐπίσκοπον I think in this context it is just "father" ( pater , ...
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is there a Relationship Between Papias's Discussion of Mark's Gospel and the First Book of Against Heresies?
Replies: 63
Views: 597

Re: Is there a Relationship Between Papias's Discussion of Mark's Gospel and the First Book of Against Heresies?

Gaius in hac carne barbatus et in hac anima severus maritus pater avus proavus If the ambiguous reference here is to Gaius being πάππας Eusebius's point: ἦλθεν δὲ εἰς ἡμᾶς καὶ Γαΐου, λογιωτάτου ἀνδρός, διάλογος, ἐπὶ Ῥώμης κατὰ Ζεφυρῖνον πρὸς Πρόκλον τῆς κατὰ Φρύγας αἱρέσεως ὑπερμαχοῦντα κεκινημένος...
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is there a Relationship Between Papias's Discussion of Mark's Gospel and the First Book of Against Heresies?
Replies: 63
Views: 597

Re: Is there a Relationship Between Papias's Discussion of Mark's Gospel and the First Book of Against Heresies?

Papias material, which we have via a well doctored compendium attributed to Eusubius (let's say the collection started under him, but the version we have is from the later middle ages ), is focused on the Gospel order.... Do the Syriac manuscripts of the History of the Church from centuries V and V...
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:15 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: YHWH, not Judas, was the original betrayer
Replies: 28
Views: 323

Re: YHWH, not Judas, was the original betrayer

Giuseppe wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:53 am
Ben C. Smith wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:50 am
Giuseppe wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:34 am
Ben, I fear that even you ignore the context too much easily.
Really? Amazing.
no need of cloying answers, here.
Okey dokey, pokey! :thumbup:
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: YHWH, not Judas, was the original betrayer
Replies: 28
Views: 323

Re: YHWH, not Judas, was the original betrayer

Giuseppe wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:34 am
Ben, I fear that even you ignore the context too much easily.
Really? Amazing.
by Ben C. Smith
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: YHWH, not Judas, was the original betrayer
Replies: 28
Views: 323

Re: YHWH, not Judas, was the original betrayer

I see that you are totally unaware of Greek language, too. "In opposition " translates the Greek ἐναντίον . This is its precise meaning: Definition over against, opposite of place, opposite, contrary (of the wind) metaph. opposed as an adversary, hostile, antagonistic in feeling or act an opponent ...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due then.
Replies: 28
Views: 5914

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

Do you know how this was worded exactly, I mean in Greek or Latin? Venit Onesimus a villa = Onesimus comes from his farm ( link ). Onesimus, old donkey? Onesimus = Ὀνήσιμος = "useful, profitable," a common name for a slave. Or a donkey. A beast of burden is very useful, right? I said that Onesimus ...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due then.
Replies: 28
Views: 5914

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

Do you know how this was worded exactly, I mean in Greek or Latin? Venit Onesimus a villa = Onesimus comes from his farm ( link ). Onesimus, old donkey? Onesimus = Ὀνήσιμος = "useful, profitable," a common name for a slave. Or a donkey. A beast of burden is very useful, right? I said that Onesimus ...
by Ben C. Smith
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due then.
Replies: 28
Views: 5914

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

Martin Klatt wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:43 am
Do you know how this was worded exactly, I mean in Greek or Latin?
Venit Onesimus a villa = Onesimus comes from his farm (link).
Onesimus, old donkey?
Onesimus = Ὀνήσιμος = "useful, profitable," a common name for a slave.
by Ben C. Smith
Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:27 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What Are the Implications that Peter Taught in 'Anecdotes'?
Replies: 84
Views: 12901

Re: What Are the Implications that Peter Taught in 'Anecdotes'?

Logia can be written: Philo, On Flight and Finding 11: "But the dead," as it is also said in the Psalms, "shall not praise the Lord" [Psalm 113.25], for that is the work of the living; but Cain, that shameless man, that fratricide, is no where spoken of in the law as dying; but there is an oracle [...