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by Secret Alias
Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:53 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The seven veils.
Replies: 17
Views: 174

Re: The seven veils.

The reason why the Mar Saba situation is valuable for scholarship is that confirms what isn't explicit with other texts - because of the convention associated with them. That is, none of the material we inherited from antiquity is entirely reliable. We just presume it is so because generations of Ch...
by Secret Alias
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:35 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A Suggestion for Revising the Early Writings' Entry for Secret Mark
Replies: 32
Views: 334

Re: A Suggestion for Revising the Early Writings' Entry for Secret Mark

was seen as unethical in ancient Judaism and Christianity That's right no gay Jews. Politicians Roberta Achtenberg, former HUD assistant secretary[2] Yossi Avni-Levy, diplomat David Cicilline, the Mayor of Providence, Rhode Island, member of the United States House of Representatives[3] Barney Fran...
by Secret Alias
Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: a possibility so remote that it deserves a little reflection
Replies: 81
Views: 3451

Re: a possibility so remote that it deserves a little reflection

I am just kidding. This whole 'debate' is so stupid. They pretend they're being objective and then proceed to doubt everything that hurts authenticity and take for granted 'facts' - like Smith's homosexuality and its effect on his 'motivation' - that aren't even facts. I think the whole thing illust...
by Secret Alias
Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The seven veils.
Replies: 17
Views: 174

Re: The seven veils.

And it is worth noting - to be objective - that most recent forgeries viz. the Gospel of Jesus's Wife, various 'Qumran' fragments - tend to be 'UNprovenanced' discoveries - i.e. where a fragment 'pops up' without giving us any details of its discovery. I am sure there are examples of 'provenanced' f...
by Secret Alias
Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: a possibility so remote that it deserves a little reflection
Replies: 81
Views: 3451

Re: a possibility so remote that it deserves a little reflection

I read your argument. You claim that Mark repeating himself is a sign that Mark wrote the Secret Gospel. But how do we really know that people repeat phrases and words over and over again when they write things? Did you demonstrate that other ancient writers - like Josephus - do the same thing? Unti...
by Secret Alias
Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The seven veils.
Replies: 17
Views: 174

Re: The seven veils.

The one presenting a thesis (eg. the document's authenticity) has the burden of proving their claims (the landings) to the public. The document exists or existed. There's no question as to it having been 'faked' as Quesnell implied in his original paper - i.e. being non-existent. Surely you can't e...
by Secret Alias
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The seven veils.
Replies: 17
Views: 174

Re: The seven veils.

Those who want to present the Letter as an authentic document have the burden of proving it is. No we don't. Who the fuck are you? Who made you judge, jury and decider? A document was found in a monastery. The document was left in the monastery and was seen why a leading opponent of the discovery. ...
by Secret Alias
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The seven veils.
Replies: 17
Views: 174

Re: The seven veils.

Andrew Criddle has an interesting explanation for the seven veils as referring to the tabernacle - obviously denying that the tabernacle had 7 veils. http://hypotyposeis.org/weblog/2017/10/seven-circuits-in-clement-of-alexandria-revisited.html He seems to think that the seven circuits ran outside of...
by Secret Alias
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: a possibility so remote that it deserves a little reflection
Replies: 81
Views: 3451

Re: a possibility so remote that it deserves a little reflection

Start explaining the pastiches? Have you ever glanced at a gospel harmony? Have you ever seen the manner in which the Diatessaron takes a line from Mark followed by a word from Luke and a word from Matthew - and that's OUR POV as people who prefer the canon of four? So Justin's 'pastiche' gospel ref...
by Secret Alias
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The seven veils.
Replies: 17
Views: 174

Re: The seven veils.

Among the cuntiest of the forgery arguments https://books.google.com/books?id=aS3Z4E-DmIIC&pg=PA44&dq=seven+veils+clement&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRkpfY8PLfAhWrv1QKHQy6A6wQ6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=seven%20veils%20clement&f=false FWIW it's modern slang cunt·y /ˈkən(t)ē/Submit adjectiveVULGAR SLANG superlat...