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Seraphim is on the way to becoming a saint in the Greek Orthodox Church https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_26_(Eastern_Orthodox_liturgics) His day is December 26. Tselikas hints that Smith might have had help with his forgery. Could Seraphim's saintly status have been what prevented Tselikas fro...

Really? With you guys turning it into a gay gospel? There is going to be serious work conducted when anyone investigating is immediately questioned, "why are you so interested in this gay gospel? Don't you love the Church?" Been there. Done that. Dozens of times with the Church. You guys p...

And another thing. Let's use the analogy of the Garden of Eden. Until "Western speculation" about homosexuality and an agenda against Church slithered into the door of the Patriarchate with Quesnell everyone was cool with the document. The document would be available today if it wasn't for...

Who's left? Morton Smith writes in 1973 about him visiting in 1958 his friends the Patriarch and Seraphim, whom he knew in the 1940s, the people who ran the Jerusalem Patriarchate and the Mar Saba monastery when he discovered the document. Seraphim must have been immediately apprised of Morton Smith...

I am bringing up facts that few people have ever considered. Before I started this thread I had no idea that the whole Greek Orthodox Patriarchate accepted the document as genuine. Did you? You claim to have known that?

So I am ignoring evidence? I haven't seen you bring up any new evidence since you were my age. It's just a constant retread of old and outdated facts.

Yoizel.

But it is a good idea to speculate about forgery? This is nuts.

As I only come to these matters from the perspective of how human beings edit experience in memory let's compare Dragas's memory from thirtyish years later with Quesnell's notes: Dragas: Kallistos (Dourvas) - not an easy person to get along with but an honest man the reason why the books were all mo...

More on the attitude of Greek Orthodox priests toward the document. This from a conversation I had with George Dragas and which I sent to my friend Harry Tzalas on May 26, 2015. He says he was there when Quesnell asked for the manuscript on June 1, 1983. He said he is also good friends with Meliton ...