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by Secret Alias
Mon May 21, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Discrediting Your Source. GJohn as Denial of GMark
Replies: 33
Views: 3387

Re: Discrediting Your Source. GJohn as Denial of GMark

So what you are saying is that you haven't any evidence for your assertion that it's a 20th century fake. Surely you can come up with an argument or two. I wouldn't have taken you to be someone who openly bases his opinions on 'feelings.'
by Secret Alias
Mon May 21, 2018 2:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Discrediting Your Source. GJohn as Denial of GMark
Replies: 33
Views: 3387

Re: Discrediting Your Source. GJohn as Denial of GMark

which I am convinced is a fraud But you also think the canonical gospels are frauds so in a sense this might mean you accept Secret Mark as an ancient gospel. If this is not your point and you are convinced somehow that Secret Mark is a modern forgery I would be interested in hearing what arguments...
by Secret Alias
Sun May 20, 2018 9:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 142

Re: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity

I am not getting you. It would seem to me that Barnabas was added to the text at a later date unless Barnabas was originally a Petrine character.
by Secret Alias
Sun May 20, 2018 3:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 142

Re: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity

Adler is one of my favorites. What he says of course is spot on. Still if the Homilies are more original we'd have to say that we are talking about multiple rewrites where even this 'Alexandrian edition' is far from the earliest version. I personally think the introduction of Barnabas - a figure fro...
by Secret Alias
Sat May 19, 2018 9:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was Irenaeus's and Marcion's Christianity a Response to Celsus's 'True Word'?
Replies: 6
Views: 132

Re: Was Irenaeus's and Marcion's Christianity a Response to Celsus's 'True Word'?

His opponent Origen likewise alternates between singular and plural emperors, even within the same chapter (8.73)
This might prove decisive. Especially if you factor in the likelihood (which I think is pretty high) that the text was rewritten by Eusebius.
by Secret Alias
Sat May 19, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Springtime for Tiberius
Replies: 10
Views: 148

Re: Springtime for Tiberius

Be skillful money changers seems to be an agraphon of Egyptian provenance https://books.google.com/books?id=a7-OBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT87&dq=clementine+homilies+written+in+Egypt&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsyKHav5LbAhUD-58KHZATAa8Q6AEITjAH#v=onepage&q=clementine%20homilies%20written%20in%20Egypt&f=false We read i...
by Secret Alias
Sat May 19, 2018 11:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Springtime for Tiberius
Replies: 10
Views: 148

Re: Springtime for Tiberius

Andrew Here is my argument for the originality of Homilies. The presence of Appion of Alexandria in Homilies. Clement has a discussion with Simon's disciple Appion (H 5.7 – 6.25). All this is omitted by R, but the same subjects are discussed in R 10.17–51 all of which means that either Homilies modi...
by Secret Alias
Fri May 18, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity
Replies: 7
Views: 142

Re: The Clementines Explain the Early Appeal of Christianity

Interesting. Maybe you're right. Let me take a second look.