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by Secret Alias
Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 4
Views: 56

Re: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"

If you want the gospel to be about homosexuality then yes put your finger on the scale and make it "more probable" that what is plainly written as "naked people" is "naked man." By all means. That's your business. But Morton Smith's photograph of the third page has an o...
by Secret Alias
Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 4
Views: 56

Re: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"

Again. Could the scribe have stopped writing νος with a special ligature? Sure. Could the scribe have mis-accented a consonant? Sure. Could the scribe have clumsily written a sigma to make it look like an iota? Sure. But all three things occurring in one instance which is at the heart of the argumen...
by Secret Alias
Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 4
Views: 56

Re: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"

The issue is probability. Why would a case where three exceptions to the normal behavior of the scribe have to be accepted (the habit of writing νος in a special way, the accenting of a consonant and the broken sigma) and be deemed more probable than the another situation which requires no special p...
by Secret Alias
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:56 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"
Replies: 4
Views: 56

Re: naked or nakeds in the "Letter to Theodore"

In order for that to be true all these things would have to be true. 1. the scribe's habit of writing terminal νος with a special ligature was abandoned. https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/wp-content/uploads/agamemnon-palaeographic-observations-1.pdf 2. the scribe made an error in accenting the sig...
by Secret Alias
Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:40 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark
Replies: 6
Views: 108

Re: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark

Here is the situation as best I can see it. 1. Paul wrote references to "my gospel" (c. 50 - 70 CE) 2. The Marcionites said that he also wrote the original gospel 3. The Marcionites took the references in the letters of Paul to "my gospel" to refer to the gospel which was part of...
by Secret Alias
Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark
Replies: 6
Views: 108

Re: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark

Most frequently , Paul uses ɛvayyéλov in an absolute and articulated manner , not further defined by a genitive construction ... In the remaining cases, where it is defined by a genitive construct, we find three recurring constructions: (τὸ) εὐαγγέλιον (τοῦ) θεοῦ,464 τὸ εὐαγγέλιον τοῦ Χριστοῦ,465 an...
by Secret Alias
Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark
Replies: 6
Views: 108

Re: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark

Eusebius argues that Paul's "my gospel" refers to the Gospel of Luke: HE 3.4.7: "And they say how Paul was accustomed to remember the Gospel according to him [Luke] whenever γράφων (graphōn, "writing") as if a certain Gospel is of his own, he says, κατὰ τὸ εὐαγγέλιόν µου (ka...
by Secret Alias
Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark
Replies: 6
Views: 108

Re: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark

Even though Marcion and his followers doubtlessly would fulfill his definition of “the heterodox,” Origen occasionally refers to them specifically. In one of these passages, he mentions that Paul’s usage of τὸ εὐαγγέλιόν μου (“my gospel”) to refer to the contents of his teaching has been misundersto...
by Secret Alias
Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark
Replies: 6
Views: 108

Re: Origen, the Alexandrian Tradition and Secret Mark

Harnack: In chapter 1, verse 7, Marcion added the words 'κατὰ τὸ εὐαγγέλιόν μου' (according to my gospel), see Romans 2:16, to the statement that there is no other gospel beside it. He was keen to mark the identity of the gospel with the gospel of Paul at the beginning of the letter, thereby excludi...
by Secret Alias
Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:14 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: are these supposed to be sound arguments?
Replies: 35
Views: 471

Re: are these supposed to be sound arguments?

Andrew restores my faith in humanity.