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by Giuseppe
Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The docetism was a reaction to old Jewish DENIERS of the historicity of Jesus
Replies: 42
Views: 1234

Re: The docetism was a reaction to old Jewish DENIERS of the historicity of Jesus


"Greet Rufus, a choice man in the Lord, also his mother and mine."

(Romans 16:13)

Not coincidentially: why didn't Paul greet also the father of Rufus ?

Was the father of Rufus absent because dead on the cross in the place of Jesus? Only ask Rufus.
by Giuseppe
Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the carnal brothers and mother of Jesus in Revelation parodied in Mark 3
Replies: 0
Views: 23

On the carnal brothers and mother of Jesus in Revelation parodied in Mark 3

If the episode of the family rejected by Jesus in Mark represents the institution of the group of the "Brothers of the Lord", as distinct from the 12, and as opposed to a carnal family of Jesus, then the idea of carnal brother of Jesus has to be older than the idea of a spiritual family of Jesus. Th...
by Giuseppe
Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philo talks about a crucifixion in 'Egypt', too
Replies: 3
Views: 67

Re: Philo talks about a crucifixion in 'Egypt', too

Psalm 22:16 's reference to crucifixion behind "Piercing the hands and the feet” may mean in the Psalm itself a reference to some legend of which we are ignorant, but of which a sort of echo lingers in the strange words of Plato’s Republic (ii, 362 A) : “The just man will be scourged, tormented, fet...
by Giuseppe
Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The docetism was a reaction to old Jewish DENIERS of the historicity of Jesus
Replies: 42
Views: 1234

Re: The docetism was a reaction to old Jewish DENIERS of the historicity of Jesus

The fact is, that even if Basilides didn't write proto-Mark, Alexander and Rufus continue to be per se evidence that Mark was written against Basilides. Therefore: 120 CE as termimus post quem . Why? Because it is too much evident that they work as two witnesses (in Rome?) of the fact that Simon had...
by Giuseppe
Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philo talks about a crucifixion in 'Egypt', too
Replies: 3
Views: 67

Re: Philo talks about a crucifixion in 'Egypt', too

But then, if the cross of Jesus is simply a Limit in outer space, of which the going through allegorizes the meeting between deity and matter, between soul and body, between Jesus and the men… ...what does the docetism mean? The answer is simple: that Jesus never really crossed the Limit. He never a...
by Giuseppe
Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philo talks about a crucifixion in 'Egypt', too
Replies: 3
Views: 67

Re: Philo talks about a crucifixion in 'Egypt', too

In the Naassene Hymn, Jesus reveals himself to disgraceful men after the his descending by the Cross/Limit/Horos in outer space. As result, the men recognize that Jesus is a deity and adore him. In the Philippians Hymn, Jesus reveals himself to YHWH after the his ascending by the his death on a cros...
by Giuseppe
Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Philo talks about a crucifixion in 'Egypt', too
Replies: 3
Views: 67

Philo talks about a crucifixion in 'Egypt', too

Revelation 11:8: Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city--which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt -- where also their Lord was crucified . That crucifixion in Egypt is considered a Christian interpolation. Even so, what was the reason for the interpolator add a reference to...
by Giuseppe
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The docetism was a reaction to old Jewish DENIERS of the historicity of Jesus
Replies: 42
Views: 1234

Re: The docetism was a reaction to old Jewish DENIERS of the historicity of Jesus

That Jesus did in fact suffer is affirmed in a quotation of Basilides preserved by Clement ( Strom. 4.83.1), a passage to which we shall return. This is the book 4 of the Stromata of Clement: http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02104.htm Can someone say me where Basilides would say that " Jesus did in...
by Giuseppe
Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basilides
Replies: 11
Views: 1100

Re: Basilides

That Jesus did in fact suffer is affirmed in a quotation of Basilides preserved by Clement ( Strom. 4.83.1), a passage to which we shall return. This is the book 4 of the Stromata of Clement: http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02104.htm Can someone say me where Basilides would say that " Jesus did in...
by Giuseppe
Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:35 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The docetism was a reaction to old Jewish DENIERS of the historicity of Jesus
Replies: 42
Views: 1234

Re: The docetism was a reaction to old Jewish DENIERS of the historicity of Jesus

Another clue of the fact that in that passage the suffering and crucified is Simon, pace Pearson: Another, their father , was the one who drank the gall and the vinegar My wrong idea in the past was that the demiurge (sic) suffered in the place of Jesus, being him the "father" of the killers. No, he...