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by Giuseppe
Thu May 09, 2024 8:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 1
Views: 23

Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

The thread assumes that only on the premise that Simonians, Cerdonites and Marcionites wrote the original epistles, it is credible the thesis of an entirely fabricated corpus of epistles. Otherwise it is not credible and not worthy of attention.
by Giuseppe
Thu May 09, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Replies: 1
Views: 23

What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?

Usually it is recognized among radical critics that all the Pauline letters ‘ ortas esse in Cerdonis vel Marcionitarum scholis ’, that means: they had been written in Marcionite/Kerdo’s school and firstly collected by ‘schoolmaster’ Marcion. Cerdon was said to be the follower of Simon Magus hence le...
by Giuseppe
Thu May 09, 2024 9:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Ellegard's Argument from Notoriety to fix Jesus under Pilate
Replies: 1
Views: 75

Ellegard's Argument from Notoriety to fix Jesus under Pilate

The crucifixion as such provided yet another clue. Palestine was under Roman rule, and the death penalty was the privilege of the Roman procurator. Now the only early first century Roman prefect or procurator of Palestine who was widely known (indeed, the only one about whom Philo and Josephus have...
by Giuseppe
Wed May 08, 2024 9:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Replies: 25
Views: 547

Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism

Usually the explanation given to the phenomenon by you described is that the first gospel (give the name that you want) is not an homogeneous text because it contains pericopes from different sources originated in different communities. Therefore it makes still sense to talk in terms of "first ...
by Giuseppe
Wed May 08, 2024 3:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Replies: 25
Views: 547

Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism

Ev was written by Luke and Matthew for me it is an unacceptable conclusion. Klinghardt or Harnack? I can concede willingly that *Ev is the top of the iceberg of multiple redactions, editings, dated back ultimately to an only scriptorium and hence to a lost proto-gospel. I don't concede that some of...
by Giuseppe
Tue May 07, 2024 11:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Replies: 25
Views: 547

Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism

JarekS wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 10:56 pm Ev was written by Luke and Matthew
for me it is an unacceptable conclusion.
by Giuseppe
Tue May 07, 2024 10:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Replies: 25
Views: 547

Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism

But he didn't prove that *Ev was written by a single ghostwriter and that it wasn't Luke. You are claiming that *Ev was not written by a single ghostwriter and I can accept it, since some passages of the Passion story are more at home by a Judaizer ( = one who believes that the supreme god is YHWH)...
by Giuseppe
Tue May 07, 2024 4:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Matthew doubled the Gerasene Demonic (Paul) in *Ev and Mark
Replies: 5
Views: 179

Re: Why Matthew doubled the Gerasene Demonic (Paul) in *Ev and Mark

Only that in this case the privilege that was going to be conferred was not the privilege of being the Carrier of Jesus during the his entry in Jerusalem, but the privilege of being the first apostle of the gentiles and in extenso the destroyer of the Pagan world. We are referred to the way Barnabas...
by Giuseppe
Mon May 06, 2024 11:36 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Matthew doubled the Gerasene Demonic (Paul) in *Ev and Mark
Replies: 5
Views: 179

Why Matthew doubled the Gerasene Demonic (Paul) in *Ev and Mark

In * Ev 8:26-39 the Gerasene Demonic is only one: 26 Then they arrived at the region of the Gerasenes,[a] which is opposite Galilee. 27 As he stepped out on shore, a man from the city who had demons met him. For a long time he had not worn any clothes, and he did not live in a house but in the tombs...