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- Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:18 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
- Replies: 10
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Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Hebrews is working out a concept of a perfect sacrifice, in order to provide an explanation of how Jesus replaced once and for all the use of sacrifices. are you aware of Turmel's case for the Hebrews's passage being anti-marcionite? We read in II, 16-17 the following observation: “Surely it is not...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:42 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: New book on Yeshu ha-Notsri
- Replies: 2
- Views: 91
Re: New book on Yeshu ha-Notsri
The intriguing hypothesis advanced by this book, even if his author is strongly indebted to Rene Salm, is that Jesus was parodied as Dositheus. Both are said to be followers of John the Baptist Both are accused to have learned magic in Egypt Both are said to be connected with Simon Magus I don't fol...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:17 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
- Replies: 10
- Views: 92
Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
In the original story, it was John who was tempted by Satan, not Jesus speculation is free in recostructing lost proto-gospels, but in this confusion I get up to a certainty: more precisely, I see a trend from a not-human not-davidic divine Jesus in *Ev to a human not-davidic in canonical Mark, to ...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:47 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
- Replies: 10
- Views: 92
Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Ebionism is a post-Marcion phenomenon, for three reasons: since Justin (the earliest polemical reference you have about ebionism, in addition to Cerinthus) comes after Marcion. Since the adoptionism requires the Temptation Story (the human recipient has to be perfect in order to work as recipient of...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:34 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
- Replies: 10
- Views: 92
Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
No difference from this POV between Mark and Matthew and canonical Luke: Mark: Jesus was tempted like ordinary men, yet he resisted to temptation. Matthew and canonical Luke: Jesus was born like ordinary men, yet his birth was through the holy spirit. At this point, yes: Mark could introduce equall...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:30 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
- Replies: 10
- Views: 92
Re: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
Weakness of the Markan prioritist Bruno Bauer in this case. Bruno Bauer interpreted the Temptation Story as an event related to the community 'Jesus', not as an event related to the man Jesus. He was wrong because he interpreted the Temptation Story as an innocent story (not as wickedly anti-marcio...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:24 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
- Replies: 10
- Views: 92
The Temptation Story in Mark is anti-marcionite
An interesting variant of this technique of extracting information about the present from the Old Testament is found in the references in Hebrews to Jesus's temptation. 94 Hebrews says: (2: 8) 'He himself hath suffered being tempted'; (4:15) 'He was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:07 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Bethsaida episode (in Mark) is based on the Bartimaeus episode (in *Ev)
- Replies: 0
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The Bethsaida episode (in Mark) is based on the Bartimaeus episode (in *Ev)
The Bethsaida episode is really a good proof of *Ev's priority over Mark , since it is based on the episode of the blind Bartimaeus. In both the cases: a blind occurs: Batimaeus is a blind a blind of Bethsaida a group is walking: disciples on the way to Jerusalem, "men as trees walking" th...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:33 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Real story of Jesus
- Replies: 8
- Views: 214
Re: Real story of Jesus
Do you think that there was an original Testimonium in Josephus's book 18 of Antiquities? I understand what is your point, only I think that it is not necessary to assume a reference to a rebel later replaced by the current TF. The episode of the Samaritan Impostor may be sufficient: he posed as the...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Abraham ibn Daud (d. 1180 CE): mythicism already then
- Replies: 1
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Abraham ibn Daud (d. 1180 CE): mythicism already then
If someone denies that Abraham Ibn Daud was a mythicist, I will reply in advance by quoting the words of Alvar Ellegard (see below): The historical works of the Jews state that this Joshua b. Perahyah was the teacher of Jesus the Nazarene. If this is so, he lived in the time of king Jannaeus. Howeve...