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- Fri May 10, 2024 8:02 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Ellegard's Argument from Notoriety to fix Jesus under Pilate
- Replies: 3
- Views: 122
Re: Ellegard's Argument from Notoriety to fix Jesus under Pilate
As a dedicated Paulinist, Mark would have known, at least approximately, when Paul wrote his letters. Very a strange Paulinist, one who believes that Jesus was born "by woman" (I assume that the bit in Gal 4:4 is an anti-Marcionite interpolation). Apart that, I would agree with you on all...
- Fri May 10, 2024 6:44 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 94
Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
it seems that, insofar you use these words, you are unaware of the best cases against the authenticity of all the pauline epistles. I mean: the radical critics, Detering, Price. I do n't mean Bruno Bauer, even if he is the first of the radical critics. I am not saying that they are right. I am sayi...
- Fri May 10, 2024 5:21 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 94
Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
I have found the answer by the greatest of the radical critics: Van Manen . Van Manen is a perfect precursor of Matthias Klinghardt when the former described the Earliest Gospel in the following terms: As for their origin, the Gospels, on close comparison, point us back to (i.) an «oldest» written g...
- Fri May 10, 2024 5:16 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 94
Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
thus to say the Simonians were involved in the composition of the original epistles becomes: a corrupted form of the Simonians were involved in the composition which becomes: a corruption of something original created the epistles it seems that, insofar you use these words, you are unaware of the b...
- Thu May 09, 2024 11:07 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 199
Re: How accurate would be this interpretation of Daniel?
Does the answer to your question really matter? I think it would matter to mythicists (as probably Sinouhe) who think that the author of the first gospel had to invent the entire Jesus's biography ex nihilo , including the date under Pilate. Even starting with the date itself. I think that it doesn'...
- Thu May 09, 2024 8:33 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 94
Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
The thread assumes that only on the premise that Simonians, Cerdonites and Marcionites wrote the original epistles, it is credible the thesis of an entirely fabricated corpus of epistles. Otherwise it is not credible and not worthy of attention.
- Thu May 09, 2024 8:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 94
What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
Usually it is recognized among radical critics that all the Pauline letters ‘ ortas esse in Cerdonis vel Marcionitarum scholis ’, that means: they had been written in Marcionite/Kerdo’s school and firstly collected by ‘schoolmaster’ Marcion. Cerdon was said to be the follower of Simon Magus hence le...
- Thu May 09, 2024 9:10 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Ellegard's Argument from Notoriety to fix Jesus under Pilate
- Replies: 3
- Views: 122
Ellegard's Argument from Notoriety to fix Jesus under Pilate
The crucifixion as such provided yet another clue. Palestine was under Roman rule, and the death penalty was the privilege of the Roman procurator. Now the only early first century Roman prefect or procurator of Palestine who was widely known (indeed, the only one about whom Philo and Josephus have...
- Thu May 09, 2024 8:40 am
- Forum: General Religious Discussion
- Topic: Absence of images of Jesus crucified in outer space in Internet
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3765
- Wed May 08, 2024 9:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
- Replies: 25
- Views: 565
Re: Gospel muteness as evidence of anti-marcionism
Usually the explanation given to the phenomenon by you described is that the first gospel (give the name that you want) is not an homogeneous text because it contains pericopes from different sources originated in different communities. Therefore it makes still sense to talk in terms of "first ...