My point behind the analogy is more subtle: a *Ev used but interpreted by Marcion is just as well dangerous in its effects as a *Ev written directly by Marcion.
Which is the reason why Klinghardt and Vinzent corroborate reciprocally their points.
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- Tue May 14, 2024 5:29 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The refusal of a sign as a Judaizing passage found in *Ev
- Replies: 4
- Views: 101
- Mon May 13, 2024 8:28 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The refusal of a sign as a Judaizing passage found in *Ev
- Replies: 4
- Views: 101
Re: The refusal of a sign as a Judaizing passage found in *Ev
This is the problem with the gospels. Even *Ev is a receptacle of different theologies, therefore Marcion was not so free from partial compromises with the ideology of the his own opponents. Well, assuming that he wrote the Evangelion. Alternately, he just received a text, like virtually everybody ...
- Mon May 13, 2024 8:23 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthew 23:7 as evidence of the euhemerization of the evil archontes
- Replies: 3
- Views: 92
Re: Matthew 23:7 as evidence of the euhemerization of the evil archontes
Wikipedia gives the reason:
The root is cognate to Arabic ربّ rabb, meaning "lord" (generally used when talking about God, but also about temporal lords), and to the Syriac word ܪܒܝ rabi.
- Mon May 13, 2024 7:14 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The Woe on Unrepentant Capernaum explained by the memory of the martyrdom of Jesus in Capernaum
- Replies: 0
- Views: 59
The Woe on Unrepentant Capernaum explained by the memory of the martyrdom of Jesus in Capernaum
Matthew 11:20-24: 20 Then Jesus began to denounce the towns in which most of his miracles had been performed, because they did not repent. 21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented lo...
- Mon May 13, 2024 6:21 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: The refusal of a sign as a Judaizing passage found in *Ev
- Replies: 4
- Views: 101
The refusal of a sign as a Judaizing passage found in *Ev
When the crowd gathered with him, he began to speak, "This generation is an evil generation. It demands a sign, but a sign will be given to it". (*Ev 11:29) Why is it a judaizing passage? Because the Temptation Story makes it clear that Jesus has to give no sign at all (apart the resurrec...
- Mon May 13, 2024 4:32 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 393
Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
I see that you have already answered here to my question, by claiming that the Basilidean proto-Mark didn't know the pauline/cerdonite epistles: Did Basilides know of Cerdo’s work on the Pauline letters? Not necessarily . The overlap may just be due to common material and family resemblance. Both Ba...
- Mon May 13, 2024 4:17 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 393
Re: What is the evidence that the Simonians used Mark and not *Ev?
I think a Basilidean proto-Mark was earlier. My perplexity with your view is that you are saying that Basilides wrote the first gospel after that Cerdon had expanded the pauline epistles (by adding Satornilian materials) and before that Marcion published them (with *Ev and the antithesis). How coul...
- Sun May 12, 2024 6:47 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Matthew 23:7 as evidence of the euhemerization of the evil archontes
- Replies: 3
- Views: 92
Matthew 23:7 as evidence of the euhemerization of the evil archontes
Matthew 23:7: they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called 'Rabbi' by others. Replace 'rabbi' with 'Kyrioi' and you have: they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called 'Kyrioi' by others. It is clear that the opposition is mythical in characte...
- Sun May 12, 2024 12:20 am
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Three macroscopical errors by Alfred Loisy
- Replies: 0
- Views: 71
Three macroscopical errors by Alfred Loisy
In his Histoire et mythe à propos de Jésus-Christ , Alfred Loisy wanted to attack frontally Paul-Louis Couchoud because, in his own words: ...j'ai le droit, même le devoir, de dire mon mot sur un problème qui n'intéresse pas que le passé du christianisme mais l'avenir de la religion dans le monde. (...
- Sat May 11, 2024 8:23 pm
- Forum: Christian Texts and History
- Topic: Last nail on the Testimonium Flavianum. Again.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 233
Re: Last nail on the Testimonium Flavianum. Again.
What is more wrong in Allen and Bermejo-Rubio is the idea that the polemical target of the evangelists (or "their sources") were perennial enemies who knew embarrassing truths about the historical Jesus. The consensus is victim of a similar error, insofar it insists that the enemies of the...