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by Giuseppe
Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:25 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Parallels between Christianity and Mystery Religions
Replies: 3
Views: 91

Re: Parallels between Christianity and Mystery Religions

About parallers of this kind, just now I realize another: any dyind and rising god is known by the his killers. The Titans knew Dionisos, Typho knew Osiris, the goddess knew Attis, etc. No kind of "Divine Secret" there.

So, why didn't the demons know Jesus in the original myth?
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Kovacs's view about what the rulers knew
Replies: 32
Views: 271

Re: Kovacs's view about what the rulers knew

Note that Kovacs insists in saying that this view (archontic knowledge of who Jesus was) was exclusively pauline and only pauline. Clearly, the alternative (the idea that also the Pillars thought so, that demons knew the identity of the victim) would give ipso facto reason to the Mythicists. And the...
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?
Replies: 39
Views: 455

Re: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?

James does not ever call himself a pillar, as far as I am aware. Paul says that he was esteemed as a pillar in Gal. 2:9: surely Paul is meaning that James would like be called Pillar also by Paul himself, as pure act of submission. To think otherwise would be equivalent to consider James a kind of ...
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?
Replies: 39
Views: 455

Re: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?

Well, if we go by Acts (which is all we have), James the son of Zebedee died in 44 CE, before Galatians is thought to have been written. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James,_son_of_Zebedee Some scholars date the original composition to c. 50–60 AD.[5] Other scholars agree that Galatians was written...
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?
Replies: 39
Views: 455

Re: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?

James does not ever call himself a pillar, as far as I am aware. Paul says that he was esteemed as a pillar in Gal. 2:9: surely Paul is meaning that James would like be called Pillar also by Paul himself, as pure act of submission. To think otherwise would be equivalent to consider James a kind of ...
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?
Replies: 39
Views: 455

Re: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?

Giuseppe wrote: ... something had changed in the concept of Jesus from the time of 1 Peter, James, Revelation to the time of Hegesippus. But what about Mark? In my view Mark was written by a follower of Peter (like Papias says) c. 70 CE, and while that isn't quite in the time of Peter and James, it...
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:59 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?
Replies: 39
Views: 455

Re: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?

I think James boasting of his relationship to Jesus would go against what he says in 4:10: "Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up," all the more so when you factor in (as I do) that Jesus was considered to be God (or "the Lord") from the get go, like in Revelation or Php. 2:6-1...
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?
Replies: 39
Views: 455

Re: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?

Could the indifference of Paul about the "so-called Pillars" end allegorized in the late Gospels as the indifference of Jesus about the fate of the Temple, in both the cases despite of the apparent greatness of the Pillars/Temple? Compare Mark 13:1-4: 13 As Jesus was leaving the temple, one of his ...
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?
Replies: 39
Views: 455

Re: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?

Could the indifference of Paul about the "so-called Pillars" end allegorized in the late Gospels as the indifference of Jesus about the fate of the Temple, in both the cases despite of the apparent greatness of the Pillars/Temple? Compare Mark 13:1-4: 13 As Jesus was leaving the temple, one of his ...
by Giuseppe
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?
Replies: 39
Views: 455

Re: Did the pillars claim to be "Brothers of the Lord"?

Could the indifference of Paul about the "so-called Pillars" end allegorized in the late Gospels as the indifference of Jesus about the fate of the Temple,
in both the cases despite of the apparent greatness of the Pillars/Temple?