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by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity
Replies: 56
Views: 476

Re: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity

Jax wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:39 am
Does that make it a fact?
There are no facts, only interpretations.
by Giuseppe
Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dogs remain dogs (in Mark)
Replies: 9
Views: 143

Re: Dogs remain dogs (in Mark)

The Klinghardt's (not-theological) argument, from what I have learned, is the following: a pattern can be identified whenever Mark diverges from Mcn : Mark's solution is more elegant and elaborate and sophisticated than Mcn 's. assuming Mark's priority, the conclusion is only one: was Mcn too much s...
by Giuseppe
Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity
Replies: 56
Views: 476

Re: Indisputable Historical Facts About Early Christianity

I agree with Vermeiren/Doudna about the historical Jesus being Jesus b. Sapphat. I agree with G. Solomon that the Pilate bit is derived from the false Samaritan prophet slain by Pilate. Which means: if Pilate had not punished the false Samaritan prophet, then the name "Pilate" would have not become...
by Giuseppe
Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dogs remain dogs (in Mark)
Replies: 9
Views: 143

Re: Dogs remain dogs (in Mark)

I think it's a mistake to assume one or the other. Rather both are polemic positions of competing factions. I agree perfectly. A question that may be addressed to Stuart in this thread is: given this telling Mark's passage, are you still of the opinion that in Mark there is not a clear defined theo...
by Giuseppe
Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dogs remain dogs (in Mark)
Replies: 9
Views: 143

Re: Dogs remain dogs (in Mark)

This appears to be an argument aimed at people who already accept that your belief that Marcion was earlier than Mark, not one for people who need to convinced of that conclusion and want to see evidence for it. precisely . Klinghardt has proved that Mcn precedes Mark without making (deliberately) ...
by Giuseppe
Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Dogs remain dogs (in Mark)
Replies: 9
Views: 143

Dogs remain dogs (in Mark)

Jesus’s interaction with the Syrophoenician woman, therefore, reinforces the Jew/nations boundary. The scene may, perhaps, hint at openness to the nations, for Jesus notes that the children must be fed first (πρῶτον), leaving open a possible later gentile mission depicted as feeding dogs.[ 121 ] Ho...
by Giuseppe
Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: New wine into fresh wineskins
Replies: 31
Views: 439

Re: New wine into fresh wineskins

You have not justified your claim that Luke 5.39 radically changes the sense of (Mark’s) parable I have not talked about Luke 5.39 as written in opposition to Mark . I have talked about Luke 5.39 as a Lukan interpolation in the Marcion's Evangelion . Hence, given what is for me a FACT (= that a pro...
by Giuseppe
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:11 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the hypothesis that the Gospel Jesus == Jesus ben Saphat
Replies: 229
Views: 41333

Re: On the hypothesis that the Gospel Jesus == Jesus ben Saphat

Simon bar Giora worked effectively in Samaria, too: Leaving the capital with his followers, he tried to make himself master of the district of Acrabatene, southeast of Samaria, and a well-known center of fierce patriotic sentiment. Here apparently others who shared his views rallied to him. He attac...
by Giuseppe
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:05 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the hypothesis that the Gospel Jesus == Jesus ben Saphat
Replies: 229
Views: 41333

Re: On the hypothesis that the Gospel Jesus == Jesus ben Saphat

Now this is interesting: some Galileans who cause trouble in Samaria: After this there happened a fight between the Galileans and the Samaritans; it happened at a village called Geman, which is situated in the great plain of Samaria; where, as a great number of Jews were going up to Jerusalem to the...
by Giuseppe
Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: On the hypothesis that the Gospel Jesus == Jesus ben Saphat
Replies: 229
Views: 41333

Re: On the hypothesis that the Gospel Jesus == Jesus ben Saphat

what are but common names. "Simon the Zealot" is hardly a common name. Idem for "Philip". Idem for Niger. My point is that insofar you see the period 66-70 CE as decisive for the birth of Christianity, these names cease virtually to be mere "common names" and find their full account in the First Je...