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by Giuseppe
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:50 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Canonical Luke never says the names of the brother of Jesus
Replies: 2
Views: 62

Re: Why Canonical Luke never says the names of the brother of Jesus

Here we see the greatness and decadence of Canonical Luke: a gospel that is the more small-minded of all in his clumsy corruption of *Ev (he omitted the names because in *Ev the same brothers are absent), ..and yet the gospel without which we couldn't verify that *Ev preceded even Mark and Matthew (...
by Giuseppe
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:46 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Canonical Luke never says the names of the brother of Jesus
Replies: 2
Views: 62

Why Canonical Luke never says the names of the brother of Jesus

Simple: he didn't find these names in *Ev because not even the brothers were named there. It would be very strange that Canonical Luke was based on Matthew and opted for the deliberate omission of the names of the brothers of Jesus. Note that Acts betrayes the need of having brothers of Jesus recogn...
by Giuseppe
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Abraham ibn Daud (d. 1180 CE): mythicism already then
Replies: 6
Views: 183

Re: Abraham ibn Daud (d. 1180 CE): mythicism already then

It is clear that you want to nail me between the two horns of the beast. I would answer "yes" to reassure you that I understand perfectly your point: in abstract logical terms the Talmudist was a historicist, he didn't deny the historicity of Jesus. I felt someway 'obliged' to answer "...
by Giuseppe
Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?
Replies: 33
Views: 434

Re: Marcion’s Gospel and the New Testament: Catalyst or Consequence?

on the one hand, it provides answers to many old questions, some of them seemingly resolved a long time ago, others fiercely debated for many decades. While I don't see nothing of "noble" in these matters (probably because of the my own views on morality, as my avatar makes it clear: only...
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Abraham ibn Daud (d. 1180 CE): mythicism already then
Replies: 6
Views: 183

Re: Abraham ibn Daud (d. 1180 CE): mythicism already then

I stand on this position well described here.

Amicus RandyHelzerman, sed magis amicus Alvar Ellegard.
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 214
Views: 6428

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

why not just conclude the whole thing was written at one time, by one author? The "giant midrash" could be added by only an editor, while the original author had only the short survived (not-historical) nucleus about Jesus being given to an anonymous Roman Governor who ordered the his cru...
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:07 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 119
Views: 5736

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

Well, unless we can speculate a very convincing reason, I think Occam’s razor still cuts through to the much simpler explanation that the passage actually was original to Josephus I think that you have not read my confession here , where I have given up to doubt about the authenticity of the Baptis...
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 46
Views: 894

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

It seems that you are begging the question about the implications of an alternative dating. When the alternative dating carries with itself the risk of a total invention de novo of Jesus (with the first gospel), then the original Jesus is reduced to be only a tiny prototype of the invented Jesus: th...
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:45 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark
Replies: 214
Views: 6428

Re: Basic reason why the name of Pilate was absent in the Earliest Passion Story extrapolated from Mark

Sorry, I meant my question in a slightly different sense: Why would inventing a trial before the Romans and a crucifixion make people believe that Jesus was the Messiah? Jews didn’t want to believe in a Messiah who’d died a humiliating death, and crucifixion wouldn’t have fitted well with their exi...
by Giuseppe
Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist
Replies: 46
Views: 894

Re: Litwa on Marcion as ancient Mythicist

What sentence even remotely implies that Jesus never existed? it seems to me that the difference escapes to you, between the Jesus lived in the remote past (under Janneus) and, for example, the claim that the historical Jesus was Jesus ben Sapphat, crucified in 70 CE by Titus. In the first case (th...