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by Giuseppe
Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 47
Views: 1024

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

Of course Luke derived from *Ev the idea of a spiritual entity descending on the earth in 3:2:

in the 15° year of Tiberius [...] the word of God descended on John son of Zechariah in the wilderness

The "word of God" is the Logos.
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 47
Views: 1024

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

Ken, one of the reasons Secret Mark can persuade about its authenticity is that it gives a detailed explanation about what Jesus went to do in Jericho (an explanation that is absent in Mark).
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 47
Views: 1024

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

I think that " doubtless " in the Jesus's answer is a strong clue pointing to an explanation found inside the story itself of the gospel of Luke, not assumed a priori external to that gospel (i.e. possibly in Mark). " Doubtless " in Jesus's answer explains also why *Ev were to c...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:02 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 47
Views: 1024

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

"Doubtless" in Jesus's answer explains also why *Ev were to choose one city to begin with, even before that the name of the city ("Capernaum") was mentioned.
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:51 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 47
Views: 1024

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

I think that "doubtless" in the Jesus's answer is a strong clue pointing to an explanation found inside the story itself of the gospel of Luke, not assumed a priori external to that gospel (i.e. possibly in Mark).
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 132
Views: 6575

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

Continuing on my previous post: It seems to me that the right sequence would be: 1) Jesus ben Sapphat ("Damneus") is made temporarily high priest by Herod Agrippas II. 2) Hearsay about Jesus being accused of being not a legitimate high priest. 3) 1 Clement and Hebrews arguing for Jesus cel...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:30 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?
Replies: 47
Views: 1024

Re: Implications of Marcion for early Christianity?

. When Jesus says " Doubtless you will tell me ...whatever we have heard done at Capharnaum ...'” -- how can Jesus be so doubtless that they will mention Capharnaum--and not Sepphoris, or Tiberias, or even Chorazin and Bethsaida, which (later in the gospel) Jesus explicitly mentions performing...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:19 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article
Replies: 132
Views: 6575

Re: John the Baptist, redivivus of a 2015 article

Giuseppe -- and maybe consider reading the NT letter of Hebrews as an apologia of Jesus supporters to having an Aaronic-ancestry claim discredited and gone? indeed Hebrews talks about Jesus entering in the heaven as a celestial high priest. And in Hegesippus's legend, James the Just seems to be inv...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:18 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel priority
Replies: 117
Views: 3891

Re: Gospel priority

But in Luke 4, Jesus returns from his temptation in the wilderness, and goes directly to Nazara. So when Jesus says: "And you will tell me, ‘Do here in your hometown what we have heard that you did in Caphernaum.’” It's puzzling, because Jesus has never been to Caphernum yet. Does that count a...
by Giuseppe
Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The first gospel was written AFTER that the Christians were the victims of a "groundless hearsay"
Replies: 0
Views: 50

The first gospel was written AFTER that the Christians were the victims of a "groundless hearsay"

NOTA BENE: I don't mean to discuss in this thread with the various historicists who deny the existence of deniers in the Antiquity. I see that "Trypho" ( Dialogue 8) is reporting an accusation about a chronological sequence in the process of acceptance of the historicist belief: But the C...