Note then the implicit logical fallacy by Litwa: if the Mythicists want to be intellectually honest, then they have to argue for some form of absolute Marcionite priority (i.e. anti-demiurgist Origins of Christianity). When all the efforts by Richard Carrier are devoted to show that mythicism is coh...
I don't like the Litwa's post, frankly. The post seems to have been written by someone who knows only recently about the modern mythicist interest for Marcion (and *Ev's priority) and talks about it as of a modern trend. When really all the past mythicists had assumed already the *Ev's priority over...
Note how Litwa feels the moral duty of accusing the Mythicists of anti-Christianity, as if this only fact has to mean something. I find this quite fascinating, because this early Marcionite mythicism has the opposite purpose as modern atheistic mythicism. Modern mythicism aims, as far as I can tell,...
Interestingly, Klinghardt means the Temptation Story as the proof that Jesus is really the son of YHWH. The birth story in Luke and Matthew make it explicit the same proof by having the angel confirming to Joseph that the Holy Spirit has worked on Mary. These proofs are not necessary if the readers ...
Without offence, but the Ebionites don't matter in this thread. :thumbup: My apologies Giuseppe. All good. I get caught up in my own hobby horse! I'll start a new thread on that sometime rather than derail yours. it is better. :thumbup: In whiletime Peter Kirby continues to ignore the Klinghardt's ...
GDon, Hebrews adores an archangelic deity (Melkisedek himself is assumed to be an archangel) therefore if the ebionites rejected Paul in virtue of the his high christology, then accordingly they would have rejected Hebrews in virtue of the same identical reason. Without offence, but the Ebionites do...
Klinghardt gives me reason on this point: The Markan report of Jesus’ baptism not only places the beginning of the Gospel into a framework of salvation history, it also provides the opportunity to have God himself proclaim the true identity of Jesus as ‘my beloved son’ (Mark 1,11). Compared to Jesus...
They could also read this as the higher good God declaring Jesus. It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite. WRONG! It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Basilidian. It is clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite . Please like the difference. No. How can you answ...
They could also read this as the higher good God declaring Jesus. It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite. WRONG! It's not clear enough to settle a debate with a Basilidian. It is clear enough to settle a debate with a Marcionite . Please like the difference. No. How can you answ...