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by rakovsky
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The gospel of the Egyptians.
Replies: 15
Views: 2131

Re: The gospel of the Egyptians.

Nice.
by rakovsky
Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The gospel of the Egyptians.
Replies: 15
Views: 2131

Re: The gospel of the Egyptians.

Oskar Holtzmann in his book The Life of Jesus suggests that the passage from the Gospel of the Egyptians can be clarified with Jesus' reply to the Sadduccees in Mark 12 that after the resurrection there won't be marriage. Holtzmann reasons that since there is no more death, there might not be marri...
by rakovsky
Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The gospel of the Egyptians.
Replies: 15
Views: 2131

Re: The gospel of the Egyptians.

In The Apocryphal Gospels, Hans-Josef Klauck connects Jesus' reply that men die as long as women give birth to God's decision in the beginning of Genesis to give women birth pangs. But neither story actually means that birth and sex are wrong themselves. Next, Klauck theorizes that the female is the...
by rakovsky
Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The gospel of the Egyptians.
Replies: 15
Views: 2131

Re: The gospel of the Egyptians.

Oskar Holtzmann in his book The Life of Jesus suggests that the passage from the Gospel of the Egyptians can be clarified with Jesus' reply to the Sadduccees in Mark 12 that after the resurrection there won't be marriage. Holtzmann reasons that since there is no more death, there might not be marria...
by rakovsky
Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The gospel of the Egyptians.
Replies: 15
Views: 2131

Re: The gospel of the Egyptians.

Another issue is the debate between the Encratites, Clement of Alexandria, and some modern theologians. Clement interprets the quotes from the Gospel of the Egyptians to be reconcilable with marriage, against the Encratites. The basic Question is whether the Gospel of the Egyptians is against sex an...
by rakovsky
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:57 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The gospel of the Egyptians.
Replies: 15
Views: 2131

Re: The gospel of the Egyptians.

A third question that I had when reading the text came up for me when, in his refutation of the Naassene Gnostics' beliefs and his discussion of the Gospel According to the Egyptians, Pope Hippolytus writes that the Gnostics, like all the gentiles are "in doubt... whether (the soul) is at all from s...
by rakovsky
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The power of failed prophecy.
Replies: 21
Views: 3349

Re: The power of failed prophecy.

To address the OP: The end of John 21 seems to deal with the issue - it says that there was a saying that Jesus would return in the life of John. So you could theorize that Jesus had said something like this, or that an apostle or the apostles took the resurrected Lord as saying this. Then in order ...
by rakovsky
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:16 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The gospel of the Egyptians.
Replies: 15
Views: 2131

Re: The gospel of the Egyptians.

Based on how literally and carefully I expect your translation is, Ben , I think that strictly speaking the short answer is that the sentence ("But they have these various changes set down in the gospel inscribed according to the Egyptians") only means that the Naassenes possess the theory of the ch...
by rakovsky
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The gospel of the Egyptians.
Replies: 15
Views: 2131

Re: The gospel of the Egyptians.

Thanks. Maybe in his time it wasn't clear to him (3rd century). In the late 2nd century it sounds like Clement of Alexandria was saying that the Encratites used it but that they used it incorrectly, eg. they interpreted it, wrongly in his view, as opposing marriage. So if the Encratites were relying...
by rakovsky
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The gospel of the Egyptians.
Replies: 15
Views: 2131

Re: The gospel of the Egyptians.

Thanks for writing back so quickly, Ben. Another translation issue is whether Hippolytus said that (A) the Naassene Gnostics set down the changes of the soul in the Gospel According to the Egyptians, or if he said that (B) they had the description of the changes of the soul that was set down in the ...