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by rakovsky
Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:04 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation
Replies: 17
Views: 374

Re: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation

David, To give you a simplified general overview, there were several major philosophical or cosmological systems in the 1st century BC-2nd century AD: -- Judaism; -- the Christianity of Jesus, Peter, John, and Paul, which from the Church's writings of the time, followed the basic theology of Judaism...
by rakovsky
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:16 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation
Replies: 17
Views: 374

Re: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation

I guess that neither gnosticism nor Orthodoxy would normally say necessarily that man lost his original shape or form or image by being in the physical skin or flesh, but blaming the entrance into the material world for death formation of man is characteristic of Gnostic formulas, whereas I think th...
by rakovsky
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation
Replies: 17
Views: 374

Re: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation

This part in Blue comes across to me as sounding like Gnosticism, wherein people exist in some heavenly, spiritual, or immateril realm and then when they enter the material world they incur death and suffering. I don't know if you can find some Christian non-Gnostic "Proto-Gnostic" or Platonic text...
by rakovsky
Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:18 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation
Replies: 17
Views: 374

Re: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation

I agree there's not much to go on here to connect these fragments to the Preaching The main connection that I see is between the similarity of keywords between the "Book of Anunciation" and Clement's quote from the Preaching of Peter in Quote #6 that I listed, about how God created all that is visi...
by rakovsky
Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation
Replies: 17
Views: 374

Re: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation

It is quite interesting Ben I guess. Eugenia said that some of the scripture quotes contain unusual readings she did do an amazing job of this Would look forward to what you make of it! Here's the suspected Preaching of Peter references, some are more certain than others It appears the author accep...
by rakovsky
Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation
Replies: 17
Views: 374

Re: Papyrus 20915 - English Translation

This Papyrus is discussed in: "THE BERLIN “COPTIC BOOK” (P 20915): A RESTORED EARLY CHRISTIAN THEOLOGICAL TREATISE" by Gesine Robinson A so-called Coptic Book, a fourth century papyrus codex belonging to the papyrus collection of the Egyptian Museum of Berlin, has finally been published, complete wi...
by rakovsky
Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:24 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Gospel of the Hebrews / Marcion parallels
Replies: 11
Views: 338

Re: Gospel of the Hebrews / Marcion parallels

It's likely that Epiphanius is preserving the beginning of a gospel in Pan. 30.13.2-3, with the way that it introduces Jesus & the author. This introduction of Jesus makes sense as a start. And the reference to twelve apostles helps explain alternate titles for this gospel. But then this means we h...
by rakovsky
Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Of Nazirites & Naṣoraeans.
Replies: 122
Views: 70785

Re: Of Nazirites & Naṣoraeans.

Thanks for sharing Jones' excerpt, Ben.
by rakovsky
Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:41 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Of Nazirites & Naṣoraeans.
Replies: 122
Views: 70785

Re: Of Nazirites & Naṣoraeans.

Your sources seem unanimous that Pliny used Mucianus mainly for his statements about strange, fantastical, and unusual phenomena (such as springs which always taste of wine). How would this tendency apply to the name of a tetrarchy in Syria? The Short Answer is: Most sources that I cited do not say...
by rakovsky
Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Of Nazirites & Naṣoraeans.
Replies: 122
Views: 70785

Re: Of Nazirites & Naṣoraeans.

Ben C. Smith wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:48 am

Do you have the 2002 article he references in which he apparently makes this argument? If so, what does he say?
Kokkinos wrote to me "Unfortunately, my article on the city of Mariamme does not exist in electronic form, so you have to order it from an academic library. "