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by Griff
Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:30 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The Origins of Christianity
Replies: 345
Views: 185787

Re: The Origins of Christianity

I think Eed is right. The timing of 70 AD looks good, fitting conventional dates for the gospels. The later revolt is a little late to achieve a timely result. But it would have redoubled the effect of the first disaster, for any stragglers.. Christianity begins with the huge disaster of 70 AD.. Fol...
by Griff
Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:11 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is the glutton and drunkard Jesus anti-marcionite?
Replies: 7
Views: 5239

Re: Is the glutton and drunkard Jesus anti-marcionite?

I'd say Jesus the drunk, making wine, and insisting we drink it as his very lifeblood, is indeed quite anti Platonic, ascetic, Marcionist. However, it makes Jesus the clear heir to Dionysus. Greek thought was always torn between the serene Apollo or the domesticating Athen Pallas, and the orgiastic ...
by Griff
Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Fishing for humans.
Replies: 15
Views: 11491

Re: Fishing for humans.

What's disturbing in dozens of these, including sheep being collected, and grain harvested, is that all have connotations of gathering, cutting down, and consuming, eating. Which seems like horribly terrible, ghastly imagery. Either the Authors had tin ears for metaphors. Or there's some dark thing ...
by Griff
Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Pilate (if Marcion comes first)
Replies: 14
Views: 10200

Re: Why Pilate (if Marcion comes first)

G: Clearly Pilate and God are related here. But why must Pilate be specifically a "parody" of God? I suggest that the two were rather, conflated. Conflated by confused oral storytellers. Who heard of one "lord" - Pilate - working momentous deeds. And later misattributed this Lord...