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Note the very strange way by Peter Shafer to argue that Pilate was known "someway" in the Talmud: Jesus was close to the government (and therefore the herald went out forty days before the execution to ask for other witnesses); this detail does not belong to the Baraita but is the answer to Ulla’s ...

Hi Neil Have you read Peter Schafer's The Jewish Jesus ? This suggests (in chapter 9) that although the idea of the Messiah ben Joseph/Ephraim who is slain in battle is independent of Christianity, the suffering Messiah as found particularly in Pesiqta Rabbati is a response to Christianity. Andrew ...

Odd that, years after these gospel texts were penned, there should be a Jewish tradition which has the Messiah ben Joseph/Ephraim meeting with Israelites in Galilee and then marching to Jerusalem, where, according to a few texts, he is slain. . . . . Or could there have been an earlier Jewish tradi...

I think it is Christian at least in its present form. Joshua/Jesus with hands stretched on fruitful tree. If I understand well, do you think that the "Christianism" in the text is to be founded in the fact that "Joshua/Jesus with hands stretched on fruitful tree" ? Have you considered that the Josh...

Could Matthews translation perhaps come from an orthodox perspective then? Might Luke's be the original saying of jesus and inn Matthew later scribes changed it to a more orthodox interpretation of Sophia? I tend to agree that Luke has probably the more original saying and that Matthew has modified...

Thanks for the info. What do you think about the following aocaltyptic prophecy: And one shall come again from heaven, a man Preeminent, whose hands on fruitful tree By far the noblest of the Hebrews stretched, Who at one time did make the sun stand still When he spoke with fair word and holy lips,...

Luke 7:35 καὶ ἐδικαιώθη ἡ σοφία ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν τέκνων αὐτῆς. but wisdom is vindicated by all her children.
parallel Matthew 11:19 ...καὶ ἐδικαιώθη ἡ σοφία ἀπὸ τῶν ἔργων αὐτῆς. ...but wisdom is vindicated by her actions.

Andrew Criddle

Some of the Millerites eventually claimed that something did happen in 1844, but it was in heaven, not on earth. I am curious about this particular feature. What happened precisely in heaven, according to Millerites? The cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary. https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/...

The names of Mandaean copyists are preserved in colophons The earliest named Copyist is apparently Slama daughter of Qidra at the end of the 2nd century CE.
Mandaeans
This tends to support a 2nd century CE origin for the Mandaeans in anything like their present form.

Andrew Criddle

The crucifixion of Christ by the rulers of this age can only happen "before time began " if the rulers of this age have exercised authority since before time began. This is improbable.

Andrew Criddle