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by andrewcriddle
Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:28 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Papias report not the "sayings of the Lord" but "the oracles concerning the Lord"?
Replies: 57
Views: 4196

Re: Did Papias report not the "sayings of the Lord" but "the oracles concerning the Lord"?

Surely Matthew is not the original. Matthew is clearly not a Jewish (or Jewish Christian for that matter) text. This is where faith gets in the way of lucidity. Are you suggesting that Greek Matthew was based on something like the Aramaic/Hebrew gospel of the Hebrews ? (As distinct from the other w...
by andrewcriddle
Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Did Papias report not the "sayings of the Lord" but "the oracles concerning the Lord"?
Replies: 57
Views: 4196

Re: Did Papias report not the "sayings of the Lord" but "the oracles concerning the Lord"?

................................................................ I’m rejecting at least two common interpretations of Papias: Papias’ logia were sayings (which would be logoi) or oracles, in the sense of prophecies about the future (I would suggest logia meant something more general, like “divine c...
by andrewcriddle
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Who was John the Elder? The same author of the Epistles of 1 & 2 John
Replies: 45
Views: 1539

Re: Who was John the Elder? The same author of the Epistles of 1 & 2 John

The note 5 reads: The decretal of Pope Damasus (382) gives in the list of books of the New Testament: Johannis Apostoli epistula una, alterius Johannis presbyteri epistulae duo. This is from the Decretum Gelasianum the NT canon here may come from Damasus in 382 but may be later. Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:19 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Lena Einhorn's ideas
Replies: 113
Views: 11364

Re: Lena Einhorn's ideas

You have to find an ancient witness to the time shift in order to take it Really seriously. An "ancient witness" who stated it overtly? or various less overt things of those times, such as Eusebius reporting the Acts of Pilate dated the crucifixion to the 7th of Tiberius (btw, do you have a citatio...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thomas L Brodie on Ehrman's 'Did Jesus Exist?'and oral traditions
Replies: 53
Views: 7159

Re: Thomas L Brodie on Ehrman's 'Did Jesus Exist?'and oral traditions

I've said this before, but I think we must distinguish between the existence of oral tradition and the reliability of oral tradition. Questioning reliability amounts to saying that the stories told about Jesus c 70 CE were highly legendary. Questioning existence amounts to saying that there were no...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:13 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?
Replies: 40
Views: 6117

Re: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?

I ask the question, why introduce a character with no background prior only to refute a theology not part of your Gospel elsewhere? If you are refuting it where did it come from? I am sorry to admit it, but the answer is easy: Vinzent thinks that Marcion remembers John the Baptist and introduces hi...
by andrewcriddle
Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Thomas L Brodie on Ehrman's 'Did Jesus Exist?'and oral traditions
Replies: 53
Views: 7159

Re: Thomas L Brodie on Ehrman's 'Did Jesus Exist?'and oral traditions

About Brodie's argument in chapter 12 of Beyond the Quest ... The orality of ancient literature is not in dispute, nor is the fact that past events can be remembered and transmitted in story-telling. Brodie gives as an example his parents' recollections, transmitted to him in story, of important ev...
by andrewcriddle
Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:54 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?
Replies: 40
Views: 6117

Re: Does Marcion's Gospel mention John the Baptist?

Odd that this John the Baptist is unknown to Jews - Josephus is not a Jewish witness. Why would Marcion need to divorce the text from a marginal and possibly non-existent person? Isn't it more likely that the editor wanted to create an Elijah for his 'Jewish messiah'? See http://earlywritings.com/f...
by andrewcriddle
Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: BeDuhn's & Klinghardt's solutions to the Synoptic Problem
Replies: 39
Views: 7051

Re: BeDuhn's & Klinghardt's solutions to the Synoptic Problem

On a general point. I think we should distinguish between two claims. A/ the plausible claim that Marcion's Gospel is a very early witness to the text of Luke, a text which was in flux in the second century and hence Marcion's Gospel may at many points preserve the original text which has been alter...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Is Celsus simply possibilist about a historical Jesus, but not really "historicist"?
Replies: 17
Views: 3615

Re: Is Celsus simply possibilist about a historical Jesus, but not really "historicist"?

Celsus seems to accept that a historical Jesus existed. He appears to be more dubious as to the historical basis of the miracle stories about Jesus.

Andrew Criddle