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by andrewcriddle
Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:34 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: The peculiar case of the two masters
Replies: 20
Views: 841

Re: The peculiar case of the two masters

.............................. and are unknown by early Christian writings. Those are unknown to Thomas and early gnostic writings. In fact, where Thomas frequently cites from the Tanakh, he doesn't cite anything from the NT. And while he clearly rejects fasting, praying, giving alms, he doesn't sa...
by andrewcriddle
Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nongbri v Hurtado
Replies: 12
Views: 815

Re: Nongbri v Hurtado

I repeat: the question of how Justin and others regarded the Gospel texts (what Nongbri seems to be discussing) is a different question from how accurately the texts were copied.

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Nongbri v Hurtado
Replies: 12
Views: 815

Re: Nongbri v Hurtado

Nongbri and Hurtado may be raising different issues. Nongbri is probably right that 2nd century Christians did not see the Gospels as canonical texts which must be passed on unchanged; in theory they were open to redaction. Hurtado is probably right that in practice 2nd century Christian copyists co...
by andrewcriddle
Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Secret Mark is Already Known to Jerome
Replies: 30
Views: 1070

Re: Secret Mark is Already Known to Jerome

Μάρκος μαθητὴς καὶ ἑρμηνευτὴς Πέτρου, καθὼς τοῦ Πέτρου ἐξηγουμένου ἀκήκοε, παρακληθεὶς ἐν τῇ Ῥώμῃ παρὰ τῶν ἀδελφῶν, βραχὺ συνέταξεν Εὐαγγέλιον, ᾧπερ ἐντυχὼν Πέτρος ἐδοκίμασε, καὶ τῇ Ἐκκλησία ἀναγνωσθησόμενον αὐθεντίσας ἐξέδωκε, καθὰ 844 συνεγράψατο Κλήμης ἐν τῷ ἕκτῳ τῶν Υποτυπώσεων λόγῳ, καὶ Παπίας...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:51 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: dating the birth stories?
Replies: 152
Views: 5056

Re: dating the birth stories?

The Infancy Gospel is almost certanly later than Matthew and Luke.
See viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7219

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:44 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Paul's letters all derived from Marcion?
Replies: 38
Views: 7365

Re: Paul's letters all derived from Marcion?

D. Roth mentions a couple "recent" attempts at reconstructing Marcion's Apostolikon from available evidence in his book on the text of Marcion's gospel (2015): In recognition of this lacuna, recent monographs arising from doctoral dissertations have focused on critically establishing Marcion’s Apos...
by andrewcriddle
Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:42 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: What's in the Vatican archives?
Replies: 9
Views: 3814

Re: What's in the Vatican archives?

IIUC the restricted/secret Vatican archives are mostly material submitted long ago under promise of permanent confidentiality. For example there may well be opinions submitted by experts in the 1600s on the orthodoxy of Galileo with the guarantee that their name would never be made public. Andrew Cr...
by andrewcriddle
Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Writers who reference Paul's letters before Marcion?
Replies: 29
Views: 9915

Re: Writers who reference Paul's letters before Marcion?

The Letter of Polycarp uses the Pastorals this probably requires a pre-Marcionite date for the Pastorals.

Andrew Criddle
by andrewcriddle
Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:53 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Any account of non-Pauline "Christianity"?
Replies: 50
Views: 17107

Re: Any account of non-Pauline "Christianity"?

Only got a vague idea about those Oracles not sure what to make of them at all. I wonder what's going on there? When I was checking that apocalypse i found something about an Arabic translation it's got some more anti-Paul stuff in it i never heard of Book of Clement "When the book was finished Pet...
by andrewcriddle
Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Writers who reference Paul's letters before Marcion?
Replies: 29
Views: 9915

Re: Writers who reference Paul's letters before Marcion?

I II Timothy and Titus should IMO be regarded as pre-Marcionite testimony to the authentic Paulines.

Andrew Criddle