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by Lev
Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A recovered Papian fragment?
Replies: 13
Views: 11903

Re: A recovered Papian fragment?

If the unhelpful fragment does approximate Papias words, I have found that it happens to find a very natural home appended to his authentic fragment discussing Mark’s gospel as follows (I have coloured Papias authentic extracts in blue ): τοῦθ̓ ὁ πρεσβύτερος ἔλεγεν : τοῦ Πέτρου δημοσίᾳ ἐν Ῥώμῃ κηρύ...
by Lev
Sun Sep 03, 2023 2:15 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A recovered Papian fragment?
Replies: 13
Views: 11903

Re: A recovered Papian fragment?

What you appear to be doing is changing the evidence to suit your theory, rather than the other way round.
by Lev
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A recovered Papian fragment?
Replies: 13
Views: 11903

Re: A recovered Papian fragment?

However, he is IMO suggesting that there need only have been three.
Ah, but Clement also preserves the more helpful fragment in Hypotyposes - so if he didn't like Mark, why does he also include the fragment that has Peter giving it his enthusiastic support?
by Lev
Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A recovered Papian fragment?
Replies: 13
Views: 11903

Re: A recovered Papian fragment?

I have read the introduction and looked at a few of his comments on individual fragments, but I haven't read it all the way through. I thought Carlson could have spent more time on the dating of Papias, as he leaves it all to a brief footnote on the first page (he dates it to the reign of Trajan 98-...
by Lev
Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A recovered Papian fragment?
Replies: 13
Views: 11903

A recovered Papian fragment?

I would appreciate critical feedback on my proposal that we can recover a Papian fragment from Clement's Hypotyposes . I will analyse two Clementine fragments found in Hypotyposes , but preserved by Eusebius in Church History. I start with the fragment found in Eusebius’ sixth volume first, for reas...
by Lev
Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:01 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the Gospel according to the Hebrews (GHeb) composed during a famine?
Replies: 33
Views: 2194

Re: Was the Gospel according to the Hebrews (GHeb) composed during a famine?

Hi Charles, Yes, there were famines in Palestine from time to time, more often than not linked to war and environmental conditions. When these famines occur, we usually find a historical record. I can find no historical record of a famine occurring within Jesus' lifetime. Let me be clear what a fami...
by Lev
Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:23 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the Gospel according to the Hebrews (GHeb) composed during a famine?
Replies: 33
Views: 2194

Re: Was the Gospel according to the Hebrews (GHeb) composed during a famine?

Aha, it's Herod the Great you're referring to. The 13th year of his reign would equate to 24 BC, which is 51 years before 27 AD, the earliest year of Jesus' ministry. I don't get the sense that this famine lasted 51 years - my reading is that it lasted for a handful of years as the sale of his furni...
by Lev
Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:23 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the Gospel according to the Hebrews (GHeb) composed during a famine?
Replies: 33
Views: 2194

Re: Was the Gospel according to the Hebrews (GHeb) composed during a famine?

Charles Wilson wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:54 am Lev --

The short answer is "Yes!".

There was a Severe Famine and you can look it up. Herod...
Hi Charles. Which Herod was this and on what date did this famine occur? And where is the evidence or witness for this?

Thanks.
by Lev
Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:44 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was the Gospel according to the Hebrews (GHeb) composed during a famine?
Replies: 33
Views: 2194

Re: Was the Gospel according to the Hebrews (GHeb) composed during a famine?

In any event, the gospel cited in Books 1 and 2 (the parts with the Jew) seems to resemble a variant Matthew (Gospel of the Hebrews)? From my many encounters trying to piece together the True Word I have noted that the gospel seems to resemble or reflect the theology of Justin Martyr... ...Also, pe...