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by Paul the Uncertain
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:59 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Quest of the mythical Jesus available online
Replies: 20
Views: 505

Re: Quest of the mythical Jesus available online

Greetings, Chris Congratulations on much work usefully presented. I have a few points, which you may take or leave as you please. [1] I appreciate that your chosen time frame is modern, but it does leave the impression that there was no ancient Jesus skepticism. This is not the case for the Simonian...
by Paul the Uncertain
Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:52 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.
Replies: 124
Views: 117036

Re: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.

Grammar suffers.
Just curious, why would that be the case under a combination of sources hypothesis and yet not under other composition hypotheses?
by Paul the Uncertain
Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Was God a fire-breathing dragon?: the Bible explained
Replies: 9
Views: 2859

Re: Was God a fire-breathing dragon?: the Bible explained

To the shock, I suspect, of no-one: My thread is in honour of April Fool's Day. I don't actually believe that dragons created mankind and that Jesus was a human/dragon hybrid. It's the basis of a sci-fi novel I've sketched out in my own mind. Perhaps the COVID-19 crisis will give me time to write i...
by Paul the Uncertain
Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due translation.
Replies: 28
Views: 19934

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

Howdy, Martin Thanks for those links. I tried to keep my reply responsive to Peter's reasonable and narrow question, So, what would it look like to give Mark its due and to interpret it on its own merits? Maybe it's the girl's very first menstruation, maybe not, According to Pliny, some ancients rec...
by Paul the Uncertain
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:43 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark is first, give him his due translation.
Replies: 28
Views: 19934

Re: Mark is first, give him his due then.

So, what would it look like to give Mark its due and to interpret it on its own merits? "Disharmonization" may be tedious, but it's straightforward. An easy example is Jairus' daughter (5:35-43). "If we had only Mark ," then it wouldn't even occur to anybody that Jesus raised her from the dead. Jes...
by Paul the Uncertain
Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:22 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.
Replies: 124
Views: 117036

Re: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.

Now you are twisting what I said.
I don't see where I twisted anything you said. I favor a different interpretation of some of Mark than what you favor. On other parts, we agree.

Par for the course on a discussion board, eh?
by Paul the Uncertain
Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:09 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.
Replies: 124
Views: 117036

Re: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.

Mornin', Martin Yes, I think I got that Jesus' adversaries include the Pharisees, lol. By verse 3:6, even so flickering a bulb as I can understand that much. I've also heard that a common side effect of fasting is feelings of hunger. The two stories are indeed connected, parts of a larger block of v...
by Paul the Uncertain
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.
Replies: 124
Views: 117036

Re: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.

Howdy, Matt We are told in 2:18 that John's disciples are fasting and they are contrasted with Jesus' disciples who are having a party. Next in 2:19-20 we hear why: Théy still have the bridegroom with them, théy will only fast after he is taken away. And that is exactly why John's disciples are fast...
by Paul the Uncertain
Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:31 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.
Replies: 124
Views: 117036

Re: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.

Yes, then, the middle way is good. I also agree that the situation with John may be a strong example of addressing an audience familiar with a story. Josephus tells us that in real life, John's reputation among the people survived his death for a while. In Mark's story universe, John's disciples are...
by Paul the Uncertain
Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:47 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.
Replies: 124
Views: 117036

Re: Presumptions of reader knowledge in Mark.

Right, I think I did understand your OP position. And we seem to agree that a clumsy, unreflective Mark is an alternative hypothesis to that one. To the narrow extent we linger in disagreement, it'd be over whether clumsy lack of authorial reflection is the alternative, singular and unique. I think ...