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by Paul the Uncertain
Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 2113

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Ben Finally, when Jesus calls them "the disciples and Peter" in 16.7, does he mean to say that Peter is no longer a disciple? If not, why this wording? The anonymous young man is speaking. The simplest motivation for the wording is that Peter distinguished himself as the last man to fall away. He r...
by Paul the Uncertain
Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 2113

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Of course it's not accidental that a very late scene recalls the earliest scene. Right at the outset, there is a voice crying in the wilderness and Jesus uses another form of the same root word to declaim Psalm 22. And on and on. It doesn't follow that the Jesus' declamation is positioned precisely ...
by Paul the Uncertain
Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 2113

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Aleph One writes: GJohn seems similar to GLuke in that sometimes the risen Jesus is definitely taking a different bodily form, but other times he's recognizable. Another reading of John 's account of Mary meeting the risen Jesus is that the author is realistically depicting clinical shock. During a...
by Paul the Uncertain
Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?
Replies: 73
Views: 17874

Re: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?

I attempted to find a thread about what the women were a afraid of, but didn't locate it. I'm sure it's been asked before. If they never understood that Jesus foretold his resurrection, and find the stone rolled away and a young man saying he is risen, go tell Pete and the homies to hightail it up ...
by Paul the Uncertain
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?
Replies: 73
Views: 17874

Re: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?

In the case of the three women in Mark 16:1-8 it is imho the anointing woman of Bethany. I see this woman as shaped by Mark as a clearly superior disciple. She is at the right time in the right place with the right work in contrast to the three women in Mark 16 which go wrong on all three levels. I...
by Paul the Uncertain
Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?
Replies: 73
Views: 17874

Re: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?

Stefan Ah, you're thinking that the author was an apostate Christian? Just as a possibility. Sometimes its easiest to discuss one plausible concrete alternative to a dominant hypothesis. Mark obviously knows a lot about Christian lore. One way to acquire that knowledge would be to have joined. Stay...
by Paul the Uncertain
Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?
Replies: 73
Views: 17874

Re: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?

Stefan Fair enough, performance. Personally I'm not convinced by some performance critics' claim, that gMark was intended for 'performance' and not for silent reading, or even theological scrutinizing as with 'Scripture'. For me that's underestimating the sophistication of the work as well as of th...
by Paul the Uncertain
Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:08 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?
Replies: 73
Views: 17874

Re: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?

Stefan Great thread. I think that Mark uses "straightforward realism" in his narrative, but the reaction of the women is also a common trope in the Bible when people are confronted with angels. All the more reason to include their collapse, but there's no problem that the author notes that the wome...
by Paul the Uncertain
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?
Replies: 73
Views: 17874

Re: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?

Is this what the silence of the women is all about? That the women collapse is straightforward realism: they are exhausted and probably in clinical shock. That's why Mark put the detail there: that's what would happen to real people in the characters' situation. John does a lot more with the idea, ...
by Paul the Uncertain
Sun May 20, 2018 6:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Jesus ben Ananus as a brother for Josephus' James
Replies: 0
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Jesus ben Ananus as a brother for Josephus' James

Jesus ben Ananus, who proclaimed woe to Jerusalem for almost eight years in Josephus' War , is about as good a candidate to be the brother of James who was illegally tried in 62 CE as the two Jesuses who appear in the Antiquities story that includes the trial. Like them, ben Ananus bears a name that...