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by Paul the Uncertain
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 2962

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

Perhaps it's all matter of people being suckers for the truth they like, rather than what might actually be the truth. Yes, I think that was one factor in the Einstein-Gutkind case. Richard Dawkins, for example, was moved by the non-translation, and that may well have precipitated his not taking th...
by Paul the Uncertain
Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:31 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 2962

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

Howdy, Stefan Because once this material had begun to spread, these proto-gospels, then it was out there and couldn't be retrieved. Kind of like a picture being put on the internet: if you wish for that picture to be spread in a changed version instead of the one that has been uploaded, then you'll ...
by Paul the Uncertain
Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:28 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: gMark is intended to be history writing
Replies: 56
Views: 2962

Re: gMark is intended to be history writing

Greetings, @Stefan Kristensen I don't think it's that simple to reverse engineer the never stated intention of Mark, beyond the self-evident, to attract and hold an audience for his work. Had he not succeeded in that, we wouldn't be discussing his work, and Luke would have copied from somebody else....
by Paul the Uncertain
Sun Aug 05, 2018 1:27 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 13032

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Ben Finally, when Jesus calls them "the disciples and Peter" in 16.7, does he mean to say that Peter is no longer a disciple? If not, why this wording? The anonymous young man is speaking. The simplest motivation for the wording is that Peter distinguished himself as the last man to fall away. He r...
by Paul the Uncertain
Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:33 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 13032

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Of course it's not accidental that a very late scene recalls the earliest scene. Right at the outset, there is a voice crying in the wilderness and Jesus uses another form of the same root word to declaim Psalm 22. And on and on. It doesn't follow that the Jesus' declamation is positioned precisely ...
by Paul the Uncertain
Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb
Replies: 74
Views: 13032

Re: Question on GMark's Adoptionism vs. the Empty Tomb

Aleph One writes: GJohn seems similar to GLuke in that sometimes the risen Jesus is definitely taking a different bodily form, but other times he's recognizable. Another reading of John 's account of Mary meeting the risen Jesus is that the author is realistically depicting clinical shock. During a...
by Paul the Uncertain
Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:52 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?
Replies: 73
Views: 22532

Re: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?

I attempted to find a thread about what the women were a afraid of, but didn't locate it. I'm sure it's been asked before. If they never understood that Jesus foretold his resurrection, and find the stone rolled away and a young man saying he is risen, go tell Pete and the homies to hightail it up ...
by Paul the Uncertain
Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?
Replies: 73
Views: 22532

Re: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?

In the case of the three women in Mark 16:1-8 it is imho the anointing woman of Bethany. I see this woman as shaped by Mark as a clearly superior disciple. She is at the right time in the right place with the right work in contrast to the three women in Mark 16 which go wrong on all three levels. I...
by Paul the Uncertain
Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:10 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?
Replies: 73
Views: 22532

Re: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?

Stefan Ah, you're thinking that the author was an apostate Christian? Just as a possibility. Sometimes its easiest to discuss one plausible concrete alternative to a dominant hypothesis. Mark obviously knows a lot about Christian lore. One way to acquire that knowledge would be to have joined. Stay...
by Paul the Uncertain
Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:21 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?
Replies: 73
Views: 22532

Re: Mark 16 and the silence of the women: The disciples redeemed?

Stefan Fair enough, performance. Personally I'm not convinced by some performance critics' claim, that gMark was intended for 'performance' and not for silent reading, or even theological scrutinizing as with 'Scripture'. For me that's underestimating the sophistication of the work as well as of th...