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by Paul the Uncertain
Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Review of Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism
Replies: 9
Views: 6029

Re: Review of Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism

(Thanks to Irish1975 and Ben for their comments last week; we seem close enough to agreement that I just left things where they were.) So, Joe : 1) Christian beliefs (interpretations based on the Text). 2) Christian claims of evidence for their beliefs. It may well be true that some Christian apolog...
by Paul the Uncertain
Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Review of Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism
Replies: 9
Views: 6029

Re: Review of Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism

It seems as though you are minimizing the difference between Paul and gMark on relevance of the empty tomb to a resurrection kerygma. Paul saw Jesus, but he was nowhere near the empty tomb in Jerusalem, and had no associations with a pre-death Jesus. His account of resurrection in 1 Cor 15 is based...
by Paul the Uncertain
Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:36 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Review of Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism
Replies: 9
Views: 6029

Re: Review of Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism

Just discussion... With regard to 16:9-20: Degree of Importance. One of the most important assertions of Christianity is that there was historical witness to a resurrected Jesus which GMark lacks without the LE. Maybe not important that way ... Verses 16:9-14 concern three visionary experiences of ...
by Paul the Uncertain
Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:00 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.
Replies: 39
Views: 20255

Re: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.

I can't lose what I've never had, Neil.

Peace. Not a question this time.
by Paul the Uncertain
Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:55 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.
Replies: 39
Views: 20255

Re: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.

If you think when I suggest we agree on some things that I am saying that with displeasure I suggest you are imagining a figure that is not me. It isn't that it seems to me that you acknowledge anything with displeasure , but rather that I suspect displeasure based on how much agreement between us ...
by Paul the Uncertain
Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:37 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.
Replies: 39
Views: 20255

Re: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.

The methods by which Second Temple scribes and rabbinical authors "midrashically" "twisted" texts is not speculation. The techniques are clearly understood and well recognized in the scholarship. You and I have no dispute about what the scribes and rabbis did, nor that scholarship takes note of wha...
by Paul the Uncertain
Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:25 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.
Replies: 39
Views: 20255

Re: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.

At least with respect to the "Edited to Add" portion of my previous post, part of the problem is that that isn't an "argument." I am acknowledging that our discussion had been based on premises which the people we're taliking about didn't share. Thus, I can write about their "lapse" of "wishful read...
by Paul the Uncertain
Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.
Replies: 39
Views: 20255

Re: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.

I think we're in agreement here. I posted a link to an entire blog post about modern people taking demonstrably non-prophetic material and then, after thematically related traumatic events occurred, finding the material at least emotionally "uncanny" (and in one case intellectually uncanny, seriousl...
by Paul the Uncertain
Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:32 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.
Replies: 39
Views: 20255

Re: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.

(Note to Ben : It really is startling how much material there is which can now be read as referring to 9-11, even when we know that the creators of the material had other purposes and no inkling of the real events. The two examples in the blog post were chosen for their possible parallels to Mark 13...
by Paul the Uncertain
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:17 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.
Replies: 39
Views: 20255

Re: A thought on the mystery of the passion of the Christ.

Taking a stab at Neil's two questions: 1. is it right to think of scriptures containing a natural of a messianic death reading that can be understood by anyone? (The author of Daniel appears to have had to re-work in significant ways the words of Isaiah to make them conform to the experiences of the...