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by Stefan Kristensen
Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:14 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Jesus is not an excorcist
Replies: 4
Views: 699

Re: Why Jesus is not an excorcist

Biblical researchers often comment on the curious fact that when Jesus exorcises demons he never uses any such language or curses or the like. A few times he seems to be using magical remedies such as spit, but even when he uses language which might look like magical incantations, e.g. "ephphatha",...
by Stefan Kristensen
Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Jesus is not an excorcist
Replies: 4
Views: 699

Re: Why Jesus is not an excorcist

Neat. A good riposte to the Jesus as a magician theory, if we assume that means a professional of a particular guild that has a code of conduct. So what would be the source of the ability of Jesus to drive out spirits and demons? Is it the spirit he ingested at his baptism, is it the power of the h...
by Stefan Kristensen
Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:12 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Why Jesus is not an excorcist
Replies: 4
Views: 699

Why Jesus is not an excorcist

The word 'exorcist' is from the Greek εξορκιστης which is derived from the verb εξορκιζω, ultimately from ορκος, "oath", and ορκιζω, "to make swear; to put under oath". Swearing and oaths is part of quite a complex semantic field. In modern language it has various meanings that cover anything from t...
by Stefan Kristensen
Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:13 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Baptism and initiation in the cult of Isis and Sarapis by Brook Pearson
Replies: 1
Views: 309

Re: Baptism and initiation in the cult of Isis and Sarapis by Brook Pearson

I think it's clear that the basic idea of Christianity as we know it from the NT of becoming part of God's new people through this special initiation rite of baptism must have been inspired a great deal, if not wholly, by the idea underlying these initiation rites of the mystery cults (or whatever w...
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:43 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Boink the Step-Mother? – Look Out Below (1 Cor 5:5)
Replies: 19
Views: 5152

Re: Boink the Step-Mother? – Look Out Below (1 Cor 5:5)

He mostly quotes from a commentary by Hans Conzelmann and a text by Ethelbert Stauffer. An excerpt (my own translation, so expect some errors): As far as the case dealt with in chapter 5 is concerned, much is unclear: the prior situation (what exactly makes this "porneia" in the first place?), the ...
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Boink the Step-Mother? – Look Out Below (1 Cor 5:5)
Replies: 19
Views: 5152

Re: Boink the Step-Mother? – Look Out Below (1 Cor 5:5)

Whose spirit will be saved? The one whose flesh is destroyed? Or the collective spirit of the Corinthian community perhaps? For whatever it may be worth, Fitzmyer seems to agree with your suggestion that the spirit is not the man's own: Joseph A. Fitzmyer, Commentary on 1 Corinthians , pages 239-24...
by Stefan Kristensen
Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:39 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Boink the Step-Mother? – Look Out Below (1 Cor 5:5)
Replies: 19
Views: 5152

Re: Boink the Step-Mother? – Look Out Below (1 Cor 5:5)

I think it also most likely means excommunication, but there seems to be more to it. A curse being involved seems plausible as far as I can see from this thread. But I still think the phrase "destruction of the flesh" is strange. Many commentators simply believe that Paul is saying that he must be ...
by Stefan Kristensen
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Boink the Step-Mother? – Look Out Below (1 Cor 5:5)
Replies: 19
Views: 5152

Re: Boink the Step-Mother? – Look Out Below (1 Cor 5:5)

It is an excommunication. The individual is cut-off from the community; In the Hebrew Bible, to "cut off" (Hebrew: כרת‎ karath), is a form of punishment which may mean killing or excluding from the people.[2][3] The Book of Numbers states that anyone who sins deliberately or high-handedly is to be ...
by Stefan Kristensen
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:04 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: Boink the Step-Mother? – Look Out Below (1 Cor 5:5)
Replies: 19
Views: 5152

Re: Boink the Step-Mother? – Look Out Below (1 Cor 5:5)

It is an excommunication. The individual is cut-off from the community; In the Hebrew Bible, to "cut off" (Hebrew: כרת‎ karath), is a form of punishment which may mean killing or excluding from the people.[2][3] The Book of Numbers states that anyone who sins deliberately or high-handedly is to be ...