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by pavurcn
Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:57 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: First Century Christian Writings Missing from our Forum's Website
Replies: 173
Views: 146059

Re: First Century Christian Writings Missing from our Forum's Website

Since we just do not have enough information to calculate accurate longevity tables (if you survive x years, you might live y more years), so I used averages of 30-60 years. DCH Perfectly fine, it seems to me. So if 60 percent fell within the average, and 20 percent fell short of it, we still have ...
by pavurcn
Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:00 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: First Century Christian Writings Missing from our Forum's Website
Replies: 173
Views: 146059

Re: First Century Christian Writings Missing from our Forum's Website

Human Lifespans Nearly Constant for 2,000 Years "When Socrates died at the age of 70 around 399 B.C., he did not die of old age but instead by execution. It is ironic that ancient Greeks lived into their 70s and older, while more than 2,000 years later modern Americans aren't living much longer." ht...
by pavurcn
Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:10 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: James 1.1 and 2.1.
Replies: 234
Views: 99056

Re: James 1.1 and 2.1.

If both the Son and the Father can be called Lord with equal felicity in this epistle, then two arguments conflict with each other: The Judge must be the Father; therefore, the coming Lord must be the Father. The advent of the Lord refers to the Son elsewhere in Christian literature; therefore, the...
by pavurcn
Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: James 1.1 and 2.1.
Replies: 234
Views: 99056

Re: James 1.1 and 2.1.

What I would like to know from those who think James is definitely a Christian epistle is how the following verses are to be treated: James 3.9: 9 With it we bless our Lord and Father , and with it we curse men, who have been made in the likeness of God. James 4.12: 12 There is only one Lawgiver an...
by pavurcn
Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:38 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 35646

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

But that's a side issue. The issue at present is Jesus not being attested to by first century writers. But Jesus wasn't active during the first century; he was active during the second century. So any talk of first century attestation should be limited to fundamentalists. And yes, that is a problem...
by pavurcn
Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:54 am
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 35646

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

I think you two are confused. Consider the title of this thread: "1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity." It is not "1st & 2nd C writers who mythed Christianity." It deals with a failure to notice something (a historical movement) was happening. Just as certain people are said to have "missed...
by pavurcn
Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:09 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 35646

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

The point is that historical movements can "go unmentioned" by lots of people who could have mentioned them. This speaks directly to the OP and the apparent implications of his first sentence.
by pavurcn
Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:50 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 35646

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Gday all :) Thank you Kapyong. How interesting that practically every pagan historian seems to have missed the Roman cult of Mithras despite its astonishing expansion in the 2d c. CE. Even Marcus Aurelius didn't even bring it up apparently. Yet no one would deny it popularity, or say it was merely ...
by pavurcn
Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity
Replies: 74
Views: 35646

Re: 1st & 2nd C writers who missed Christianity

Gday pavurcb and all :) I wonder how many of the cited writers mentioned the Mithras cult. That might be an illuminating statistic. Well, here is the raw list of writers who mention Mithras : Herodotus Xenophon Strabo Plutarch Justin Martyr Lucian of Samosata Celsus Claudian Julian Eunapius Dio Cas...
by pavurcn
Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:45 pm
Forum: Christian Texts and History
Topic: How does the mythical Jesus thing hang together?
Replies: 118
Views: 60205

Re: How does the mythical Jesus thing hang together?

From a materialistic perspective this makes sense. But the denial that the immaterial exists cannot be proved. Therefore when it is asserted it is sheer dogmatism Hardly. The meaning of an assertion, the force of an assertion, the truth or falsity of an assertion, the assent or withholding of assen...